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re: Alabama players prayed with/for our president
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:15 pm to Globetrotter747
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:15 pm to Globetrotter747
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And how certain are you that you have all the answers regarding deities and religion?
There is a reason it's called faith.
I have faith that he hears my prayers. I may not always get the answers I pray for but I still have faith that he hears them...
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:21 pm to pvilleguru
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All of these "thoughts and prayers" aren't doing shite.
Thoughts and prayers keep issues (whether national, local, familial, among friends, or even strangers) at the top of the thinker/prayers mind. Usually, someone who says "thoughts and prayers", if genuine, is a caring person. Continuing to remember the needs of others often drives a caring person to act. That action has impact and does "do shite". Just my two cents.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:33 pm to CrimsonShadow
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:44 pm to hawgfaninc
Very glad to see Bama didn’t pull some political or racially based boycott of a visit to the WH. As much as I despise, yet still greatly respect Bama, good job. ; )
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:53 pm to WSPanic24
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Once one is able to accept that humans, are intellectually limited, it is easier to accept the truth that God is often beyond our comprehension.
So if I were preaching some other religion with a deity that supposedly does things that make no sense to you (and may even be interpreted as evil or negligent) and my answer to you was that this deity and its methods are simply beyond your comprehension and you should go along with it anyway, would you buy it? Probably not. Most people who say such things are pushing the religion of their culture.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:57 pm to StopRobot
quote:Because no other President has ever had photo ops plastered all over the news, right?
Right but its not news, its a photo op for Trump.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:59 pm to WSPanic24
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That being said, God is not afraid of our questioning, and a belief in God should be accompanied by questioning, not the absence of it.
Absolutely. The Jews of the Old testament often questioned God. I believe God welcomes all honest and sincere questions.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:14 pm to Globetrotter747
quote:Absolutely not. And nobody is saying "...you should go along with it anyway....", or "...buy into it." Christianity is a calling. nobody on this board or in this world can "make you a Christian" and you cannot become a Christian simply by following rules or a belief system. It is accepting Christ into your life and believing. The Holy Spirit places you under conviction and you are convinced of your sinful nature, turn from your sinful nature by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
So if I were preaching some other religion with a deity that supposedly does things that make no sense to you (and may even be interpreted as evil or negligent) and my answer to you was that this deity and its methods are simply beyond your comprehension and you should go along with it anyway, would you buy it? Probably not. Most people who say such things are pushing the religion of their culture.
It's just something you wake up and decide this is right or wrong, but a faith based leading.
I didn't want to come off as preachy or "holier than thou" as I am not either. But you asked, so I answered as I best could. There is nothing I, or anyone else can do to save themselves or others. It is a work of God in a person's life.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:15 pm to Globetrotter747
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So if I were preaching some other religion with a deity that supposedly does things that make no sense to you (and may even be interpreted as evil or negligent) and my answer to you was that this deity and its methods are simply beyond your comprehension and you should go along with it anyway, would you buy it? Probably not. Most people who say such things are pushing the religion of their culture.
The equivalecies you draw aren’t exactly relevant.
There’s far more to Christian history than the scenario you describe.
To answer your question, I likely wouldn’t “buy it,” since my Savior is Jesus; but sure, I’d listen to what you had to say.
To each his/her own.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:22 pm to DawgsLife
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The Holy Spirit places you under conviction
He seems to only do this in places that are predominantly christian. I mean, I haven't seen a lot of people "discover" the god of the bible without being presented with a bible or a person spreading the news. But, I've seen people all over the world, in all cultures and religions, who believe just as strongly as you do about their own god. It's almost as if it's human nature to want to believe there's a deity that will take care of them when they need help.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:36 pm to DawgsLife
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It's just something you wake up and decide this is right or wrong, but a faith based leading.
In my experience, religious faith is about like sports fandom. People in Pittsburgh tend to like the Steelers while people in Dallas tend to like the Cowboys. People in the US tend to be Christian while people in the Middle East tend to be Muslim.
I think it’s that simple. People tend to adopt what’s convenient, familiar, and will meet the approval of their peers. That goes for everything from clothing styles to religion.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:41 pm to Globetrotter747
Since both are Abrahamic religions, that’s not a difficult pill to swallow.
Very similar.
The various “sects” simply settled in different places (e.g., the ME, U.S.).
Very similar.
The various “sects” simply settled in different places (e.g., the ME, U.S.).
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:56 pm to EKG
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Since both are Abrahamic religions, that’s not a difficult pill to swallow. Very similar.
Very similar? There are major differences. Besides, the same goes for most major religions. Hindus in India, for example.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:57 pm to DawgsLife
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Because no other President has ever had photo ops plastered all over the news, right?
Again with the straw man arguments/. Jeez. Here I'll do it too.
Because every other Presidential photo op has been featured on the evening news.
Is that how you do it?
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:26 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Exactly! All throughout Psalms, the writers question, and even become angry with God! It is absolutely human nature to question, and at times to have doubts and even anger toward God. Read about the disciple, Thomas (a,k.a. the twin or Didymus) in the New Testament,(John 20:24–29).
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That being said, God is not afraid of our questioning, and a belief in God should be accompanied by questioning, not the absence of it.
Absolutely. The Jews of the Old testament often questioned God. I believe God welcomes all honest and sincere questions.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:35 pm to EKG
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The equivalecies you draw aren’t exactly relevant. There’s far more to Christian history than the scenario you describe.
There’s far more to all the other mainstream religions than there is Christianity.
Most are far older.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:36 pm to hawgfaninc
I look forward to seeing the weird place this thread goes by page 8 or so
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:44 pm to DawgsLife
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The Holy Spirit places you under conviction and you are convinced of your sinful nature, turn from your sinful nature by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
What is “sin”? The Bible is full of thousands of things considered “sin” that even the most devout Christians don’t adhere to anymore. Why?
Things like eating shellfish, wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, eating pork, tearing your clothes, tattoos, getting remarried after divorce, gossip, overeating, women speaking at church, playing football (with an actual pigskin football), working on Saturday, shaving, haircuts.........
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:46 pm to Teague
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He seems to only do this in places that are predominantly christian.
Not at all. there are Christians pretty much everywhere, just as there are Muslims and Hindis and others anywhere else. but just because you are under conviction does not mean you yield to it. You have free will to turn away, and if you live in a primarily Muslim country, for instance, you would probably be more apt to not yield to that conviction.
quote:It has happened, but that is also the reason Jesus' last instructions to His followers were, "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," Matthew 28:19.
I haven't seen a lot of people "discover" the god of the bible without being presented with a bible or a person spreading the news.
quote:I do believe God implants in us a desire to believe this. It only makes sense to me.
It's almost as if it's human nature to want to believe there's a deity that will take care of them when they need help.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:48 pm to AshLSU
quote:Anything that damages and/or separates us from our relationship with god is sin. The Bible does not spell out every single thing that is or could be a sin. That would be impossible.
What is “sin”? The Bible is full of thousands of things considered “sin” that even the most devout Christians don’t adhere to anymore. Why?
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Things like eating shellfish, wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, eating pork, tearing your clothes, tattoos, getting remarried after divorce, gossip, overeating, women speaking at church, playing football (with an actual pigskin football), working on Saturday, shaving, haircuts.........
You are confusing Judaic law made by and added to by man with sin.
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