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re: Alabama Law on “Aid and Abet”/Accessory

Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64662 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:35 pm to
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Contrast this non-charging with the LSU player's charging of an illegal weapon.

Charge was actually dismissed tonight at his initial appearance
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15163 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:36 pm to
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need it for self defense
he says LOL>

The killer literally told her "I told you I was gonna get you bitch" before he orphaned her son.

How you think her son will feel about Brandon Miller in 10 years when he's 15...
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
5252 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:39 pm to
You’re so desperate. It’s not going to undo the fact that your team is circling the drain.

Miller has fully cooperated because he has nothing to hide, and the DA determined there were not going to be any charges filed against him weeks ago. He’ll be fine, Bama will be fine and likely still the top overall seed in the tourney.

Deal.

With.

It.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83463 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:51 pm to
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Take a breath, and then log off until this situation is resolved. You look like a real jackass.
People are insinuating Miller purposely blocked the jeep from moving in order to have its occupants shot.

I’m pointing out that nobody involved in this case are saying that.

It’s ridiculous that you have a problem with that.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:51 pm to
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Well that isn’t what the police said

I guess your fandom is so strong you refuse to see the facts. But I’ll post them again and use multiple sites.

AL.com

According to police, Davis retrieved what was believed to be the gun from Miller’s car and started shooting into the Jeep of Harris’ boyfriend.

Police also testified that the vehicles of Miller and Bradley were allegedly blocking the road where the Jeep was parked.

ESPN.com coverage

Tuscaloosa detective Branden Culpepper testified Tuesday that Miller brought Darius Miles' gun to him on the night of the fatal shooting of 23-year-old Jamea Jonae Harris, after Miles texted him and asked him to do so.

As you see I listed the facts that Law enforcement actually testified in court to all this. Meaning sworn under oath.

Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:53 pm to
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only are y’all wrong, y’all are taking it a step further and insinuating that Miller intentionally blocked the jeep from being able to move.

That’s exactly what the police testified to under oath in court.

Police also testified that the vehicles of Miller and Bradley were allegedly blocking the road where the Jeep was parked.

Police testimony about Miller
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
5252 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:57 pm to
Why are you so racist? Brandon Miller is black so he must be a thug that delivered a gun with the sole purpose of killing someone, just disregard all the real facts of the case.

No, but if it was one of your white friends that felt threatened and someone wound up dead, you’d be singing a different tune.
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
1515 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:01 pm to
No No No everybody knows when somebody ask for a firearm outside of a bar room and for you to help block the street with your car so this other car can’t get away that they are just wanting to be friendly. I hope all the wanna be gangbangers get exactly what they deserve. Stop glorifying this stupid arse lifestyle where shooting people and treating women like pieces of shite is the standard.
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
4486 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:02 pm to
Gumps gonna Gump. Shameful POS
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:02 pm to
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Why are you so racist?

Race has nothing to do with it. I guess if I told you I was black I would be an “Uncle Tom” right?
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Brandon Miller is black so he must be a thug that delivered a gun with the sole purpose of killing someone, just disregard all the real facts of the case.

Race has nothing to do with it. I posted the law which is facts. The facts are according to police is that Miller delivered the gun. The police also testified in court under oath that Miller blocked the Jeep also. I haven’t said one false thing that the police didn’t testify to in court.
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No, but if it was one of your white friends that felt threatened and someone wound up dead, you’d be singing a different tune

He felt so threatened that he had time to text his friend to bring his gun and then wait around on it. He was so scared for his life he got in a vehicle and got the gun and got back out and approached the vehicle. Self Defense don’t work when you tell someone “that you are going to get them” and then shoot them later on. Those are facts my friend. Take off the crimson colored glasses and look at the actual facts that the police actually testified to in court.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
5252 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:04 pm to
If you really cared about this situation, instead of just having a “gotcha” moment over Bama, then I’d care what you think.

But you don’t so I don’t.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14432 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:06 pm to
Why are you even engaging these guys? This is a 100% troll board and you are feeding it. It's Bama's turn in the barrel. Ignore it.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83463 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:08 pm to
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Police also testified that the vehicles of Miller and Bradley were allegedly blocking the road where the Jeep was parked.


Isn’t

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Law enforcement testimony indicates he and Bradley parked their cars in a manner that blocked the victim from getting away, seems like some intent there
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
5252 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:10 pm to
Everything the police has said has been complimentary of Brandon. Nothing in this case implicated Brandon as an accomplice or criminal. Did he make a poor decision? Probably, but that doesn’t make him criminally liable by any of the stuff you posted. This is not new info, just new to us, so if they were going to charge him, it would have already happened.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:11 pm to
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blocking the road where the Jeep was parked.

Do you know what blocking means.
Blocking- the action or fact of preventing something such as light, air, or a moving object from passing through a place:

They blocked the road or Jeep, but non the less the Jeep could not travel freely down the the road.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:15 pm to
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Nothing in this case implicated Brandon as an accomplice or criminal.

Police testified that he brought the gun after he got a text to do so.
Police also testified in court that Millet blocked the Jeep moving down the road.
Miller had a legal obligation by law to stop a crime under the Alabama State law. His friend was drunk so there for was not able to legally possess a fireman.

Here’s the Alabama Law on aid and abeting

A person is accountable for the behavior of another constituting an offense if, with the intent to promote or assist the commission of the offense: [Read appropriate part]
(1) He/she procures, induces or causes the other person to commit the offense;
(2) He/she aids or abets the other person in committing the offense; [or]
(3) Having a legal duty to prevent the commission of the offense, he/she fails to make an effort he/she is legally required to make.
A person acts intentionally with respect to a result or to conduct described by a statute defining an offense, when his/her purpose is to cause that result or to engage in that conduct. [13A-2-2(1)]
Aid or abet” is to help, assist, or facilitate the commission of a crime, promote the accomplishment thereof, help in advancing or bringing it about, or encourage, counsel, or incite as to its commission. (Black’s Law Dictionary)
“Aid and abet” comprehends all assistance rendered by acts or words of encouragement, support or presence, actual or constructive, to render assistance should it become necessary. Radke v. State, 292 Ala. 290, 293 So.2d 314 (1974).
The perpetrator can commit the crime though he/she may vary the mode or circumstances of the perpetration, or though no particular manner, time or place may have been counseled or instigated. Griffith v. State, 90 Ala. 583, 8 So. 812 (1891).
Mere presence at the scene, without more evidence, is not sufficient to prove complicity. See Hand v. State, 26 Ala. App. 317, 159 So. 275 (Ala. Cr. 1935).
No particular acts are necessary and it is sufficient to convict if the jury is convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was present with a view to render aid should it become necessary. Radke v. State, 292 Ala. 290, 293 So.2d 314 (1974).
The State has the burden of proof. The burden does not shift to the defendant.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 10:18 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83463 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:17 pm to
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but non the less the Jeep could not travel freely down the the road.
Could any vehicles move freely on that street at the time?

Is blocking a road an indication that you’re attempting to help in a murder? I’m saying no.

Y’all are saying yes.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:17 pm to
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Did he make a poor decision? Probably


Probably?
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:18 pm to
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They blocked the road or Jeep, but non the less the Jeep could not travel freely down the the road.


There is not a chance in hell that the police believe that Miller and Bradley positioned their cars in such a way as to prevent the jeep from leaving and are not pressing charges against either.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:18 pm to
The police testified that Miller blocked the Jeep which in turned so happen to block the road.
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