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re: Alabama baseball hires Greg Goff from Louisiana Tech

Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:02 am to
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:02 am to
And that leaves Goff and LaTech with a huge problem....LaTech has no contract with Goff / no buyout - so they have considered him an Alabama employee as of last night - LaTech has their next coach lined up....Waiting again on Bama.....


.....a complete cluster for all parties and I am starting to point my finger at UA as the originator of these problems....or Goff is the patsy for the bigger name.

Get the man the paperwork and get his arse on a plane to Bama.....how hard can it be Alabama?

Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72313 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:03 am to
Except that it's beening done at Ole Miss and Mississippi State. Academia needs to help baseball with scholarships, to offset the lottery states.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:07 am to
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Except that it's beening done at Ole Miss and Mississippi State


He ignores that in every baseball thread. It isn't like Alabama and Mississippi are the minority. There are actually only 10 or so states that have any form of lottery scholarship.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:08 am to
quote:

TouchdownTony


quote:

Manieri should have been fired for losing 2 to a team full of walk-ons which is basically what Bama is. Ask Skip where LSU would be without the lottery.


Always find away to take a shot at LSU. Well done.

Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:11 am to
MSU's new pitching coach has a better head coaching resume than Alabamas new head coach.
Posted by Tom Haverford
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jan 2011
540 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:14 am to
What people forget or don't understand about the scholarship situation, it goes way beyond lotteries.

Ole Miss and State can waive out of of state tuition rates to kids that meet certain academic requirements---and they do this for regular students not just student-athletes.

Alabama, and Auburn as well, don't have the same issues or don't want to eat that tuition money.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:15 am to
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MSU's new pitching coach has a better head coaching resume than Alabamas new head coach.


He was at Kentucky 8 years and went 54-65 in the SEC his last 4 years there.

So, I mean, not really. He was basically Gaspard of the great white north.
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 11:17 am
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:17 am to
You guys should just start off with option D in sports other than football. Would streamline the process.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:18 am to
quote:

MSU's new pitching coach has a better head coaching resume than Alabamas new head coach.


an his last game was a loss to Alabama.
Posted by TIGER62
METAIRIE, LA
Member since Aug 2005
2219 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:18 am to
louisiana lottery money goes into the general fund
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:18 am to
quote:

You guys should just start off with option D in sports other than football. Would streamline the process.


Rather aim high and work our way down than settle for shite from day 1.

We seem to be doing ok in other sports. We'll see how this one works out.
Posted by Tom Haverford
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jan 2011
540 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:19 am to
Kentucky is an incredibly hard to place to win.
Henderson was/is a good coach,
so was Gaspard
better than their W/L records indicate, that is.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:20 am to
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Kentucky is an incredibly hard to place to win. Henderson was/is a good coach, so was Gaspard better than their W/L records indicate, that is.



What says Gaspard is a good coach? He took an incredible stable, consistent program at Northwestern State and drove them into mediocrity after 3 great coaches built a consistent winner over the course of a decade.

This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 11:21 am
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:21 am to
Yeah I am surprised Gaspard has not been hired by someone to be an assistant. I guess he is taking some time off.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:22 am to
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Yeah I am surprised Gaspard has not been hired by someone to be an assistant. I guess he is taking some time off.


His letter and interviews suggest, to me at least, that he is evaluating things in light of his family and might rather be a scout or something else that doesn't dominate his time like being an assistant or head coach does.

But that's just me reading between the lines.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:22 am to
I wonder if Goff is going to hit the JUCOS hard for Alabama. Seems to be his MO.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:23 am to
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I wonder if Goff is going to hit the JUCOS hard for Alabama. Seems to be his MO.


I think that Alabama's unique situation with scholarships and some of the additional state/university restrictions means that you have to have a coach who is creative in figuring out ways to put together a roster, so that wouldn't surprise me.
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 11:24 am
Posted by Tom Haverford
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jan 2011
540 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:25 am to
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I wonder if Goff is going to hit the JUCOS hard for Alabama. Seems to be his MO.


Yeah that's interest and concern...is he going to try to come in get all his own guys in quickly?

I watched his press conference from when he was hired at LA Tech just two years ago--one of the first thing he mentioned was establishing contacts with HS coaches in Louisiana and scouts...

then he goes and signs 21 JUCO players.

NOT A SINGLE TRUE FRESHMAN ON THEIR ROSTER THIS YEAR

I'm all for singing JUCO kids---that was a main criticism I had of Gaspard and staff,,,took too many kids out of HS that should have been at JUCO first, if 'Bama/SEC ever, and barely took JUCO kids.

Goff, at least at LA Tech, was the opposite extreme.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:28 am to
Well I think he did it at LA Tech to that extreme because he wanted a quick turnaround and he wanted to get hired away. Not sure if he will go for such a quick fix at a more prestigious job.
Posted by Tom Haverford
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jan 2011
540 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:34 am to
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Well I think he did it at LA Tech to that extreme because he wanted a quick turnaround and he wanted to get hired away. Not sure if he will go for such a quick fix at a more prestigious job.




I thought that too and I hope you're right and that was the situation. I don't think he did so at Campbell, of course Campbell is nothing like Alabama/SEC.

Alabama could pay whomever you think the best coach in the country is (McDonnell/Maineiri/O'Sullivan/O'Connor/etc) $2M a year and we're going to have an extremely tough time consistently being one of the top programs. Some 'Bama fans don't like to hear that, or see it is as an excuse, but it's just reality.

I think we're capable of competing for Championships every couple years, but also having a really bad season every 3-4 years. It's extremely tough to field consistent and competitive teams at this level, at Alabama.

Florida, LSU, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, State, Arkansas, Texas A&M, South Carolina. That's over half the conference that is a better job than Alabama.
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