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After Week 13 SoS rankings.

Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:20 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:20 pm
Using the FEI ELS metric. Pretty much the only SoS I consider valid since it's not based on averages.

Strength of schedule ratings represent the number of losses a team two standard deviations above average would expect to have against the schedule of opponents (ELS),

Only for games played thus far, doesn't count future games. Listed in order by overall rank, expected losses to the right.

1. Florida 2.71
3. Oklahoma 2.48
4. Kentucky 2.47
5. Georgia 2.36
8. Miss St 1.96
11. Arkansas 1.89
12. LSU 1.86
12. Vandy 1.86
14. USC 1.71
16. Alabama 1.66
24. Texas A&M 1.39
25. Ole Miss 1.37
28. Tennessee 1.28
31. Missouri 1.22
37. Auburn 1.09
40. Texas 1.04

Non SEC Top10:

15. Ohio St 1.69
27. Penn St 1.30
35. Oregon 1.16
39. Indiana 1.06
73. Notre Dame .63
81. Miami .60
86 SMU .53

My thoughts:

Florida being #1 has been expected all year, so not a big surprise. Lucky FSU is so bad, and it's still brutal. Oklahoma could pass them next week.

Brian Kelly is really missing that Notre Dame schedule, the LSU schedule is almost 3 times more difficult. Florida's schedule is 4.3 times more difficult than ND.

Indiana now has a SoS as good as Texas, and they both got blown out by the 1 good team they played.

Speaking of Texas, Texas and Auburn finally get a schedule strength with an expected loss over 1. Congrats.

It's ridiculous that the people who vote in these polls and committee don't pay more attention to SoS. Stop rewarding teams for playing weak schedules.

2024 FEI Ratings
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 4:28 pm
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
6748 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Brian Kelly is really missing that Notre Dame schedule, the LSU schedule is almost 3 times more difficult. Florida's schedule is 4.3 times more difficult than ND.


Just wondering, what is Washington's schedule? I bet DeBoer misses that regular season schedule he had last year.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:26 pm to
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Just wondering, what is Washington's schedule? I bet DeBoer misses that regular season schedule he had last year.


Washington is #26, 1.32 expected losses, 10 spots below Alabama this year.


Posted by Jrv2damac
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

30 Kansas
34 missouri


Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:31 pm to
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39. Indiana 1.06
40. Texas 1.04
73. Notre Dame .63



That's interesting.
Posted by Lolathon234
Rio
Member since Oct 2022
1351 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:36 pm to
Don't know why Texas is included, they'll be sitting 12-1 with a top 5 SOS on selection sunday
Posted by CNB
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1312 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:42 pm to
Yet if you could beat unranked teams like we do it wouldn't even be a problem now would it? How can anyone take a team serious that gets embarrassed by a team with literally no offense. Our strength of schedule is the least of your issues Bama Boy
Posted by Lolathon234
Rio
Member since Oct 2022
1351 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:43 pm to
Florida, Vandy and Arky only have a losing record because they HAD to play Texas, a de facto scheduled loss. Can't play Ole Miss/LSU, Bama and Tennessee every week
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
3655 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:43 pm to
crazy texas hasnt played 2 sec teams with wining record in conference
Posted by Lolathon234
Rio
Member since Oct 2022
1351 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:59 pm to
Why? Kirby's made a career out of it

2021
USCjr 3-5
@ Vandy 0-8
Arky 4-4
@ Barn 3-5
Kentucky 5-3
Florida 2-6
Misery 3-5
@ Tenner 4-4


2022
USCjr 4-4
@ Misery 3-5
Barn 2-6
Vandy 2-6
Florida 3-5
Tenner 6-2
@ State 4-4
@ Kentucky 3-5

2023
USCjr 3-5
@ Barn 3-5
Kentucky 3-5
@ Vandy 0-8
Florida 3-5
Misery 6-2
Old Piss 6-2

@ Tenner 4-4


Posted by BuckI
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Member since Oct 2020
5482 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:02 pm to
Florida's schedule was a beast and their recent run is amazing IMO.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:16 pm to
Being the good guy I am, I'll provide a fair retort for UTjr


Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:55 pm to
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a fair retort for UTjr
quote:

two shitty Alabama losses

Posted by Jrv2damac
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:56 pm to
I mean, it’s fair.

SEC posters on here are bashing every other conference but also want to bash the schedule of the team leading their own conference.

Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
7046 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:00 pm to
Only shitty teams clutch on to SOS rankings.

You know how to make your SOS go up? Lose to your opponent.

Dumbasses.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3931 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:01 pm to
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Using the FEI ELS metric. Pretty much the only SoS I consider valid since it's not based on averages.


It still suffers from the main flaw in all SOS rankings; not enough meaningful OOC games to draw meaningful comparisons. If they really want to make SOS more useful, do two things.

First, no more G5, FCS, or Independent games. Only P4, and the Big 12 is included on a trial basis to see if it's competitive.

Second, every team plays 8 conference games and 4 randomly rotating OOC games, including at least one from each conference. They might have to make every participating conference the same size to make the schedules work.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
1675 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:03 pm to
Poor Texas fans crying
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16964 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:05 pm to
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I mean, it’s fair.

SEC posters on here are bashing every other conference but also want to bash the schedule of the team leading their own conference.

What are the rosters for each Big 12 team like? Try to compare to the SEC team's roster. The key is to have more 4* and some 5* recruits than to have 3* and a few 4* recruits. That is why the Big 12 are far behind on the overall talents. Then the next is coaching.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:10 pm to
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missouri


Please refer to my first post in here.

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