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Actual question about NIL - No trolls
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:44 pm
I want to know the difference between Deon Sanders - who is the head coach but also works with Barstool Sports and him using them to give the #1 player a 7 figure deal.. But lets say Nick Saban - who owns a Mercedes Dealership using that to do the same thing? Can Nick Saban start offering NIL deals out too? I feel like this could get real messy. Thoughts?
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:45 pm to Vols98
Could get?
Who is going to stop any of it?
Who is going to stop any of it?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:46 pm to Vols98
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I want to know the difference between Deon Sanders - who is the head coach but also works with Barstool Sports and him using them to give the #1 player a 7 figure deal.. But lets say Nick Saban - who owns a Mercedes Dealership using that to do the same thing? Can Nick Saban start offering NIL deals out too? I feel like this could get real messy. Thoughts?
Not sure
I do think there needs to be a low cap on offering NIL to HS kids.
You blow up and become a star, get your $$$
Until then…
It’s about to get real stupid
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:48 pm to JesusQuintana
I know I guess I'm saying - why wouldn't every coach just start a business and start forking money out from boosters to land whatever recruit they want. This is where I think shite is going to get real bad
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:48 pm to Vols98
There’s so much gray area right now. Buy them all.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:50 pm to Vols98
Swear to God, if Nick std it threw his foundation he can do it, i think.
Nobody knows the damn rules, no one even knows how many players you can take in portal rn
Nobody knows the damn rules, no one even knows how many players you can take in portal rn
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:51 pm to Vols98
I think the Saban/Mercedes thing was brought up as an example a few times in questions about the NIL stuff and the answer was always explicitly no.
However, with this Barstool/Deion thing.....who knows.
However, with this Barstool/Deion thing.....who knows.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:51 pm to Vols98
What's in it for the Deon Sanders business or Saban's business? Are these shell businesses intended to pay players or to make a profit selling stuff? Seven figures has to come from somewhere. Remember National Championships are for bragging rights and not for infusion of cash into a program. And the SEC shares revenue with the Natty winner getting a couple of million extra.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:52 pm to Vols98
In theory - the school isn't allowed to be directly involved.
In practice ? We're back to the booster networks and hundred dollar handshakes, with buffers protecting the school.
In application ? Certain folks are going to cry, because writing a seven figure check to the dean should mean something - and this low brow frick paying a player less than a hundred an hour to show up and do some tedious job shouldn't have a seat at the table. And sure as Hell shouldn't have that level of access.
In practice ? We're back to the booster networks and hundred dollar handshakes, with buffers protecting the school.
In application ? Certain folks are going to cry, because writing a seven figure check to the dean should mean something - and this low brow frick paying a player less than a hundred an hour to show up and do some tedious job shouldn't have a seat at the table. And sure as Hell shouldn't have that level of access.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:53 pm to bstew3006
Degree of Sepúlveda.
But that seems to be easily maneuvered around.
But that seems to be easily maneuvered around.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:54 pm to Vols98
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I know I guess I'm saying - why wouldn't every coach just start a business and start forking money out from boosters to land whatever recruit they want. This is where I think shite is going to get real bad
It’s already happening and will happen more. This is just the beginning
I mean look at Hunter. Barstool just blatantly bought him for Deion and who is going to do anything about it?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:55 pm to VandyRandy
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What’s NIL?
Do you go to Vanderbilt? I'm surprised you don't know. You are kidding, I know.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:58 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
No, I did back in the day. Wife went to Mississippi State and son is at Ole Miss hah!
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:01 pm to Vols98
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and him using them to give the #1 player a 7 figure deal
If this is case it's against NIL rules.
You cannot use NIL funds to recruit or entice players.
ETA Three schools are currently being investigated for NIL violations.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:03 pm to RD Dawg
it’s the damn wild west
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:05 pm to VandyRandy
Name, Image and Likeness
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I think the Saban/Mercedes thing was brought up as an example a few times in questions about the NIL stuff and the answer was always explicitly no.
Exactly so why can Deon do it? It's literally the same concept.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:29 pm to Vols98
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I want to know the difference between Deon Sanders - who is the head coach but also works with Barstool Sports and him using them to give the #1 player a 7 figure deal.. But lets say Nick Saban - who owns a Mercedes Dealership using that to do the same thing? Can Nick Saban start offering NIL deals out too? I feel like this could get real messy. Thoughts?
Difference #1: Sanders doesn't own Barstool Sports. There's at least two levels of separation between the coach and the business.
Difference #2: There is a noticeable benefit that the company receives from the player advertising on their behalf.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:33 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Alright - with that idea why wouldn't schools set up deals with Barstool and lets say Outkick and have a coach do a podcast like Deon and in return they buy the players? Either way this is not what "NIL" was intended to do. I am all for players making money off their name - but when coaches get involved with a business they work with - that is just bullshite
Also - would Barstool have done this if the kid stayed at FSU and didn't play for Primetime? Absolutely not
Also - would Barstool have done this if the kid stayed at FSU and didn't play for Primetime? Absolutely not
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 10:35 pm
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