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re: Aaron Murray or Tahj Boyd: Who's the better QB?? Answer is Inside!

Posted on 6/25/13 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 2:22 pm to
tl;dr

One's a guido, and one's not. And that, as they say, is that.

Advantage: Boyd
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5549 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 3:18 pm to
I agree with your synopsis. Another factor to take into account is supporting cast in the back field. Im wondering, with 2 stud rb's returning and a solid Oline if Murray might not actually become even more dangerous with play action. For once, in some time, teams we play better play to stop the run first.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 3:34 pm to
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Im wondering, with 2 stud rb's returning and a solid Oline if Murray might not actually become even more dangerous with play action


It's inevitable.

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For once, in some time, teams we play better play to stop the run first.


Should be the gameplan.
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4938 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by Gamecox20
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 5:12 pm to
The correct answer is they both equally suck against the Gamecocks. A more interesting question would be which QB has more scars left on them from Jadeveon Clowney (both emotional and physical count).
This post was edited on 6/25/13 at 5:14 pm
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 5:22 pm to
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A more interesting question would be which QB has more scars left on them from Jadeveon Clowney (both emotional and physical count).


I would think Boyd, b/c he's going to be known as the QB who was sacked the most times by a single player, in their stadium.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:44 pm to
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No, Boyd would not have been better in UGA's offense under Bobo, but yes, Murray could have been better in Clemson's offense, against Clemson's weak conference competition, with Clemson's wide receivers, than Boyd.


Lol, do you follow Clemson at all? Clemson runs an offense predicated around a spread mobile QB. Boyd ran like 30 times against LSU. There's zero chance Clemson would be better with Murray under center, and that's not a shot at Murray.

You're a dumbass if you think that.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:50 pm to
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Boyd plays an easier schedule, week-in and week-out.


True.

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Murray endeavors to compete in a much tougher league.


While also having some of the easiest schedules in the history of the East. Clemson plays FSU and SC each year. Recently, UGA's big games have been SC and UF, not that different. No one cares you can beat the state of Mississippi, Tennessee and Kentucky.

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Murray has been to Atlanta twice, while playing in the much tougher league.


And lost both times.

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So I look at talent. Murray had Green for two years, Boyd has had Watkins for two years and has probably had the better overall receivers for three years.


True.

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Better offensive lines ... that goes to Murray IMHO, by far.


Agreed, just look at the SC games. Boyd has been slaughtered in every one. Sure mobile QBs usually have higher sack rates due to trying to make plays, but his OL has significantly let him down against SC.

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Murray has a better head for football, is the better passer mechanically and runs with the ball fairly well for a white guy.


All of this is purely subjective and your opinion. You have no reason to say he has a better head for football other than he's white. There's not a scout on the planet who would agree with you about better mechanics. Boyd's are as tight as they come, if he was 6'3 he'd be right next to Bridgewater as the top QB. So Murray runs fine for a white guy, so what, he's still miles behind Boyd in that category.

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Boyd is the better overall athlete, a fair to middlin' passer and an excellent running QB when he wants to be against the average defenses he normally faces in the ACC with the exception of UNC last year and FSU pretty-much every year.


Lol, what? Have you seen what Boyd has done to those vaunted FSU defenses during his career? He's slaughtered them. He'll drop 35 on them this year without breaking a sweat. The only D he's struggled with (and mightily at times) is SC.

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Boyd, he too is a gamer but less so than Murray. Boyd is willing to sacrifice to a degree, but he also has a tendency to get a little gunshy. I've also seen him make a few critical mental errors that I would not expect Murray to make in the same situation.


Throughout his career I'd agree with you, but he was a completely different guy against LSU. They tried to break him in half in that game, and he took everything they had and gave it right back. We get that guy all season and the only question mark on the schedule is SC. Throughout his career, though, I'd agree he's whiltered at times when hit.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39980 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:54 pm to
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While also having some of the easiest schedules in the history of the East. Clemson plays FSU and SC each year. Recently, UGA's big games have been SC and UF, not that different. No one cares you can beat the state of Mississippi, Tennessee and Kentucky
Still harder than anything Clemson has played.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:54 pm to
Are you saying that Boyd is a better QB than Murray?
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:00 pm to
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Are you saying that Boyd is a better QB than Murray?


You can make an argument for either. I'm just saying the poster I responded to's argument was terrible.

And yes I'd absolutely argue Boyd is better than Murray. He'll outplay Murray without an elite OL or elite RBs in week one.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:01 pm to
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Still harder than anything Clemson has played.


Eh, not by enough to really laud the incredible schedule Murray has played. This is the first year IMO that UGA has really had to go through a gaunlet of a schedule with UF, SC, LSU, and Clemson.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:05 pm to
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Eh, not by enough to really laud the incredible schedule Murray has played. This is the first year IMO that UGA has really had to go through a gaunlet of a schedule with UF, SC, LSU, and Clemson.


2012
UGA finished out #27 by Sagarin.
Clemson #61.

You want to explain yourself?
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:13 pm to
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2012
UGA finished out #27 by Sagarin.
Clemson #61.

You want to explain yourself?


Strength of schedule is for fvcking morons.

In 2012 UGA played tough regular season games against Florida and @South Carolina. Clemson played tough games @FSU and and South Carolina. Are you really hanging your hat on the fact that Buffalo or Florida Atlantic was ranked higher than Furman and Ball State? Or Ole Miss and Kentucky were above Maryland and NC ST?

Hell they had 3 common opponents in GT, Auburn and SC. Outside of UF and SC, Clemson would have slaughtered all the remaining teams on UGA's schedule just like they did.

The schedules were very similar. Even the biggest UGA homer would have a hard time arguing that.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70893 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:14 pm to
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LSU was able to dip out of playing a "tough" SECw opponent again in '12


???
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:18 pm to
Meant UGA, I edited that post.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:19 pm to
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Strength of schedule is for fvcking morons.


and here we go....
Posted by 20ozBulldog
Member since Sep 2012
1857 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:21 pm to
DEFLECTION ALERT!!

It really must pain you that USC has only 17 victories in 65 tries against the Puppies. Is it solely UGA that gets to you? Or is it the fact that USC got their doors blow off 56-17 in your only shot at ever winning the SEC? Maybe it's the fact that Clemson owns you too? Damn, 41 W's in 110 tries. Almost there, dicknose!

40+ years without sniffing any sort of conference title has gotten to the Gamecocks.

Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:23 pm to
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and here we go....


Do you disagree with the rest of the post?

No one would argue the SEC is without a doubt stronger than the ACC, not even close. However, that's because of the big dogs not the bottom dwellers. UGA played 2 big dogs and a bunch of bottom dwellers, 2 of whom Clemson played as well.

Everything else is pretty similar. Again, you can maybe give UGA a slight edge as UF > FSU IMO, but it's not like they faced some all-time epic schedule. UGA has gone to the SECCG under Murray because SC has had tougher schedules, period.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39980 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:24 pm to
Please, Clemson plays in the 4th toughest BSC conference with 2 good teams and one of them happens to be Clemson.
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