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re: Aaron Murray or Tahj Boyd: Who's the better QB?? Answer is Inside!

Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

Strength of schedule is for fvcking morons.


So are weak arse generalizations.

2011 UGA
Boise St (finished #8)
South Carolina (finished #9)
LSU (finished #2)
Michigan State (finished #11)

2012 UGA
South Carolina (finished #8)
Florida (finished #9)
Bama (finished #1)
Nebraska (finished #25)

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2011 Clempson
FSU (finished #23)
Virginia Tech (finished #21)
South Carolina (finished #9)
Virginis Tech (finished #21)
West Virginia (finished #17)

2012 Clempson
FSU (finished #10)
South Carolina (#8)
LSU (#14)
Posted by 20ozBulldog
Member since Sep 2012
1857 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:30 pm to
Wrong. UGA went to Atlanta because they won the games they needed to win to get there. USCe, did not...

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39981 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:33 pm to
Hey you!! Yeah, you. Don't go bringing facts up in this thread. Facts are overrated.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:35 pm to
They both played LSU in Atlanta. Boyd won, whereas Murray got slaughtered.
This post was edited on 6/25/13 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39981 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:37 pm to
You're normally a solid poster but you've gone full retard with this one.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:40 pm to
I won't confirm or deny that that was my intention.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:46 pm to
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Do you disagree with the rest of the post?


I would believe that strength of schedule could be a little irrelevant when you are comparing a Ball State and New Mexico, but strength of schedule as a whole is not for morons.

There is a lot of truth in the big teams in the SEC are weighted much heavier than the big teams in other conferences, that's b/c they're better. The only way a strength of schedule works is if you rank all of the teams, which is the way they do it and why it is done. It accounts for the best and worst teams.

Before you make your argument that clemson beat LSU, I'll remind you that LSU was not at the top of the conference last year and clemson, FSU and Ga Tech both lost to their annual SEC opponents. I mean, didn't Ga Tech and FSU play for the ACC, they were the best teams in the conference, right?
This post was edited on 6/25/13 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39981 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:47 pm to
I gave you the benefit of the doubt
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:51 pm to
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It really must pain you that USC has only 17 victories in 65 tries against the Puppies.


Apparently not as much as it pains you to see UGA lose 4 in a row.

quote:

Is it solely UGA that gets to you?

I don't know if gets to me is the right terminology. I'm on several team's boards, not just here.

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Or is it the fact that USC got their doors blow off 56-17 in your only shot at ever winning the SEC?

Now that did suck, but we'll get our * once Cam's tell all book comes out.


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Maybe it's the fact that Clemson owns you too?

You might not have heard about all of the 4 bombings I reckon....

I'm sensing a lot of hate in your response. Are you angry?
Posted by Ermahgerd
Athens
Member since Sep 2012
332 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:54 pm to
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Outside of UF and SC, Clemson would have slaughtered all the remaining teams on UGA's schedule just like they did.


You barely beat Auburn the team that went 0 for fricking 8 in the SEC and you want to claim that you would have slaughtered everyone on our schedule. I have never seen a fanbase with a 1 point win against a bowl opponent who didn't give a damn about being there get so arrogant.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:55 pm to
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They both played LSU in Atlanta. Boyd won, whereas Murray got slaughtered.


Now that is an interesting point, different years, but during the same period of time we are talking about.

What is Richt's winning percentage in ATL? I remember the two SECCG loses, and the Boise debacle, what were the other games?
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

So are weak arse generalizations.

2011 UGA
Boise St (finished #8)
South Carolina (finished #9)
LSU (finished #2)
Michigan State (finished #11)

2012 UGA
South Carolina (finished #8)
Florida (finished #9)
Bama (finished #1)
Nebraska (finished #25)

------------------------------
2011 Clempson
FSU (finished #23)
Virginia Tech (finished #21)
South Carolina (finished #9)
Virginis Tech (finished #21)
West Virginia (finished #17)

2012 Clempson
FSU (finished #10)
South Carolina (#8)
LSU (#14)


I hadn't been including post-season comparisons first of all. But we can do that.

2011

UGA - 4 Opponents Average Rank or 10
Clemson - 5 Opponents Average Rank of 18

2012

UGA - 4 Opponents Average Rank of 11
Clemson - 3 Opponents Average Rank of 11

Again, I said you can give UGA a slight edge, but tell me how those are landslide? In 2011 Clemson played more opponents with a slightly lower average, and in 2012 they played the same average just one opponent less?

O well, all this will be for naught. If Clemson beats UGA it will assuradly be on the back of Boyd as he doesn't have the horses in Gurley and Marshall to ride so that'll end this debate right away.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39981 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:57 pm to
Where do yo think he won his first two SECCGs?
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:58 pm to
If I were picking as an NFL GM, I'd obviously go Murray. As a college QB, it's much closer. With the personnel, I'd probably go Boyd - Watkins is a true game-changer that you rarely see at the college level. Marquise Lee level (not quite there right now, but has a strong chance to be there by the end of this year).
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:05 pm to
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Now that is an interesting point, different years, but during the same period of time we are talking about.

What is Richt's winning percentage in ATL? I remember the two SECCG loses, and the Boise debacle, what were the other games?

Don't forget about that Sugar Bowl that was played in Atlanta. Got clowned by a Big East team.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:07 pm to
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- Watkins is a true game-changer that you rarely see at the college level. Marquise Lee level (not quite there right now, but has a strong chance to be there by the end of this year)


Right on. Hypothetically, if you had to choose then b/w Watkins and AJ Green, and everything else like the Watkin's drug arrest and AJ's suspension for selling swag had gone on, who would you pick in the draft b/w the 2 players?
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:08 pm to
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You barely beat Auburn the team that went 0 for fricking 8 in the SEC and you want to claim that you would have slaughtered everyone on our schedule. I have never seen a fanbase with a 1 point win against a bowl opponent who didn't give a damn about being there get so arrogant.


And you struggled against Buffalo and Missouri before putting them away. Florida almost lost to some sisters of the poor school, shite happens.

It's not about being so arrogant, Clemson has fielded good teams lately and will do so against this coming year. In your honest, unflaming opinion, do you not think Clemson would run the table against:

Buffalo
Missouri
Florida Atlantic
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Kentucky
Ole Miss
Auburn
Georgia Southern
Georgia Tech

Not once have I come on here and ranted about how UGA was gonna get pillaged by Clemson or how the SEC sucks. I've simply said UGA has had formidable scheduling lately and as such is comparable to what Clemson has faced.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21603 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

What is Richt's winning percentage in ATL?

.633
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:09 pm to
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Don't forget about that Sugar Bowl that was played in Atlanta. Got clowned by a Big East team


Clowned by WVU...maybe clemson and UGA are more alike than anyone expected.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:09 pm to
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.633

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