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re: A&M AD Woodward: “I’ve got to worry about Auburn and Alabama and LSU”
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:40 pm to BrerTiger
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:40 pm to BrerTiger
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I don't want to play Aggy on Thanksgiving.
Yeah us neither anymore.
That was just us reacting to Texas claiming that playing on Thanksgiving was THEIR tradition not ours.
So we worked it out to have a better game that day than they could muster, and it was fun for a few years seeing them visually upset that we were playing a team like LSU while they got stuck with TCU and Tech.
But life moves on, so have we. We found out that playing on Thanksgiving was overrated, and we remember why for over a decade we didn't even play Texas on Thanksgiving. So now playing on that weekend is fine with us.
With that said, we will still want to be LSU's last game each year. It has been a great moral victory for us the last few years being the game that pushes the LSU AD into terrible coaching decisions simply because of our spot on the calendar, and if we could ever frick up something like a playoff run for LSU by winning the right year on that day we would have something we could beat our chest about for generations.
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:51 pm to MSHawg1
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Um no. You are 30-41-3 against Arkansas alone. I don't know about the others. Believe it or not, football was played before 2012
Believe it or not, before the early 70's, losing to A&M was not much different than losing to The Citadel. Until we opened up to non-regs and women and scholly limits were instituted, it should be amazing that you EVER lost to A&M.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:54 pm to WestCoastAg
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im pretty sure it had more to do with us realizing how stupid playing yall on that date is
Wrong.
Admittedly, I'm only now reading up on this but the impetus appeared to be ESPN needed an annual commitment and LSU refused so ESPN got the Egg Bowl locked up for Thanksgiving night every year.
Honestly, a win-win for everyone. True rivals willing to incorporate their hate for each other into holiday celebrations will be playing. And not so much rivals will play on Saturday.
I may now consider going to the game next time I find myself in the Hill Country for Thanksgiving. I'll toast Alleva (for the first and probably last time) with a shot of Rebecca Creek whiskey.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:57 pm to Ag Zwin
I'm always amused when tx or arkie refers to the 40s-early 70s as a measuring stick on who A&M is. They refuse to realize A&M was an all-male service academy and not the 68k student behemoth it's become today. It's comparing apples to oranges. Arkie seems to ignore the last 6 years as an aberration
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:44 pm to EKG
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Iowa plays Iowa State home-and-home every year.
Well, that does it! I'm convinced!
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:47 pm to BrerTiger
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Wrong.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:51 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:You mean the years when you won all your national championships and had a Heisman winner?
Believe it or not, before the early 70's, losing to A&M was not much different than losing to The Citadel.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:09 pm to NIH
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A Mississippi State fan attempting to demean any other SEC school academically.
The most embarrassing part of this thread is lowering ourselves to MSU and Arky levels both athletically and academically. Athletically were are undefeated in SEC play against Arky and MSU is buying the t-shirts that they are 3-3 against us.
Meanwhile both schools
cant spell "cat" without giving them the C and A. Meanwhile I will never want the sip-Aggie game until someone from Austin says they were wrong and should not have been such jerks.
That will never happen.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:11 pm to FluffyBunnyFeet
Yeah look up our record pre-1975 amd post 1975 after A&M stopped being an all-male service academy. It greatly inflates your all time record against us. Army and Navy had heisman winners after JDC
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:16 pm to FluffyBunnyFeet
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You mean the years when you won all your national championships and had a Heisman winner?
I love how Longhorns want to act like this is inconsistent or something.
You see, in 1939 all the way until the early 1960s the military was cool. Thanks to a second world war, and a Korean War that people were drafted into, being tied to the military at that point was actually a positive for a program because a huge chunk of the country had served and therefore had a positive association.
Then in the 1960s the hippies tore down the nation's respect for the uniform, and the Vietnam War basically ended our national tradition of giving the military the benefit of the doubt. From that time forward being a military based program was a strike against us, and it took us over a decade to realize that and adjust to modern times.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:21 pm to Aggiehoss04
quote:I looked up your record pre-1975. I see that the vast majority of A&M's greatest accomplishments in football took place during that time frame. And NCAA rules violations inflated your record against Texas during the 80s and early 90s, but I don't see any Texas fans saying those years should be ignored.
Yeah look up our record pre-1975 amd post 1975 after A&M stopped being an all-male service academy. It greatly inflates your all time record against us.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:22 pm to FluffyBunnyFeet
Because they had NCAA violations too?
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:46 pm to cardboardboxer
quote:It's not an act. It really is inconsistent.
I love how Longhorns want to act like this is inconsistent or something.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:46 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:Major lulz at the comparison. Lack of institutional control. Repeat violator. Bowl bans. TV bans. We were fools to try and keep up with the masters.
Because they had NCAA violations too?
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:07 pm to FluffyBunnyFeet
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It's not an act. It really is inconsistent.
It really isn't.
Everything we did worth a damn until the 1990s we did before 1960.
In 1960 Kennedy escalated our involvement in the Vietnam War, which basically ended up killing the positivity associated with the military in America.
We took that brand hit and didn't recover until we had completely remade ourselves into a school for non-regs.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:19 pm to cardboardboxer
quote:I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because I was very young, but you're saying Texas A&M's association with the military during the Vietnam era was viewed as a negative ... in Texas?
In 1960 Kennedy escalated our involvement in the Vietnam War, which basically ended up killing the positivity associated with the military in America.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:24 pm to FluffyBunnyFeet
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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because I was very young, but you're saying Texas A&M's association with the military during the Vietnam era was viewed as a negative ... in Texas?
Yes, at least in the minds of young people (aka everyone who fills colleges and actually plays football).
Our association was fine with all the people past college age, and for a long time those people made the decisions with what THEY wanted in mind rather than what the kids wanted.
A big part of our current makeover (SEC, new facilities, etc.) is because those kids are now in control and they want to move even father away from the cow college A&M once was.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:28 pm to cardboardboxer
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Everything we did worth a damn until the 1990s we did before 1960.
I think you're selling Jackie Sherrill's teams in the 80s a little short there.
He did win the SWC 3 years in a row and won a couple Cotton Bowls by large margins.
The Aggies have been 1-6 in the Cotton Bown since Jackie and that one win came in 2013 when Sumlin beat the Sooners.
Doesn't change your point about the 60s and 70s but just pointing out Sherrill had some pretty good teams. LSU and Harvey Williams certainly enjoyed playing the Aggies while Jackie was there.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:31 pm to BrerTiger
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I think you're selling Jackie Sherrill's teams in the 80s a little short there.
Yeah probably. He just has a shitty reputation with us so its hard to reject the revisionist history I have been taught.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:34 pm to Ag Zwin
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before the early 70's, losing to A&M was not much different than losing to The Citadel.
Jesus, you aggies are never right about anything.
Ranking from 1869-1970 by win%:
Rank/Team/Win%
51 Wisconsin 0.58271
52 Missouri 0.58160
53 Oregon State 0.57962
54 Louisiana Tech 0.57861
55 Purdue 0.57635
56 Texas A&M 0.57631
57 Ohio 0.57612
58 Florida 0.57589
59 Northern Illinois 0.57485
60 Arkansas 0.57478
Arkansas vs A&M 1910-1970: 26-14-3 0.640
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