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Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:47 pm to
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What happened in 1973?


The first scholarship limitations were in 1973 (105); second round in 1978 (95); commonly referenced as the start of the modern football era). Since 1974, the record is even with 19 wins for A&M and 19 for tu.

Sips beat their chest over a "dominance" that hasn't been the case in almost 50 years.

But in fairness, they dominated the series in the leather helmet days. That's supposed to make them a "Blue Blood"...or put another way, an entitled trust fund baby that derives self-worth and condescends due to events that happened well-before their lifetime and have no bearing on the present day.

Sad
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

What happened in 1973?


Scholarship limits were imposed by NCAA.

Pretty relevant to the discussion.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21176 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:54 pm to
The series between Arkansas and Texas when modern college football began is close.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:58 pm to
When did both programs integrate? I think that's even more important.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

When did both programs integrate? I think that's even more important.



Texas A&M's first black player made the team in 1967.

'horns' first black player made the team in 1970.

1970 was the year A&M had our first black starter on the team.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7262 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:09 pm to
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When did both programs integrate? I think that's even more important.


Both Universities still do not allow heterosexuals.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:13 pm to
Dats pwerty skrong
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3415 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:27 pm to
Meat On The Hoof, Marcus Dupree recruiting, early 80’s and late 80’s. Your success in the 80’s is partially a result of breaking rules. Your not lilly white.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:30 pm to
We dont play bama every year because of a point shaving lawsuit way back in the day and some fraternity pranks that went really wrong back in the day. The rivalry was mutually paused.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:34 pm to
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I mean…I hate to defend Aggie …but the TU/Aggie series is tied since 1974.


I agree , but what about the fans who wax poetically about College Football history, traditions ( fight songs, rivalries, mascots) , but casually dismiss history when it comes to on field performance? Especially when it's lopsided in favor of the Longhorns .

The Aggies did improve , but I find it amusing when history no longer matters & we pick near arbitrary starting points.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:40 pm to
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The Aggies did improve , but I find it amusing when history no longer matters & we pick near arbitrary starting points.


I think it’s important to put in perspective why Aggie isn’t and shouldn’t be scared of TU…which is what is implied with the whole “historical record” stuff. Should TU not be proud they owned Aggie in the leather helmet and single facemask bar days? I guess so..if that makes them Happy
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

we pick near arbitrary starting points.


The '73/'74 starting point isn't arbitrary.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Scholarship limits were imposed by NCAA.

Pretty relevant to the discussion.

So what's your point? Did they allow the Horns to have unlimited scholarships & place a limit on the Aggies? If the Aggies & Horns both had unlimited scholarships they were playing under the same rules.


Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

So what's your point?


I was answering bigDgator's question:

quote:

What happened in 1973? Watergate? End of Vietnam War? Just curious why this date was chosen as the starting point
Posted by MizzouTrue
Member since Jun 2016
3841 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:58 pm to
It’s no different than Florida fans bragging about their record against Georgia “since 1990”
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:23 pm to
Do you know what happened to NCAA football in the 1970s?

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

So what's your point? Did they allow the Horns to have unlimited scholarships & place a limit on the Aggies? If the Aggies & Horns both had unlimited scholarships they were playing under the same rules.

Do I bother even addressing this completely obtuse response?
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

I was answering bigDgator's question:

But you conveniently avoided my reasonable question. Were the Longhorns allowed unlimited scholarships & A&M limited to a certain number? Sounds like an excuse considering both programs were technically playing under the same rules.


It's funny when history & tradition doesn't matter anymore. Especially when one school was getting trounced by another annually on the field/ court.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
5914 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:39 pm to
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Were the Longhorns allowed unlimited scholarships & A&M limited to a certain number?


DOn't be obtuse. Unlimited scholarships were widely seen as an unfair advantage. Kids would get scholarships jus to keep them from going to another school. They might not even be on the practice squad.

So the rule was changed, first to 105, then to 95 and finally to 85 (I think that's the max now).

Tu built their all time record at a time when they had a distinct advantage over a small, all male military school.

Let them have it, but it's been 50 years since that decided advantage was removed and they are 0.500 against us. If you want to pound your pud about games that your grandfather can't recall, knock yourself out.

Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:45 pm to
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DOn't be obtuse. Unlimited scholarships were widely seen as an unfair advantage
So the the Great A&M Aggies were'nt allowed to give unlimited scholarships? Texas Longhorns were the only school in the NCAA / Texas allowed to do this?
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