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re: 247 Sports ranks top 16 coaching jobs
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:33 am to meansonny
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:33 am to meansonny
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LSU has finished top 10 only twice in the last 11 years.
We've finished ranked 8 times in the last 11 seasons
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What would you have done without Joe Burrow? Be A&M?
Have at least 7 seasons finishing ranked to their 4? Have an 8-3 record against them (or 7-3 not counting 2019). Thats still a huge difference.
LOL at trying to compare either of our programs, it's not even close. Not to mention we went 13-0 and played for a national title the literal year before they joined the conference if we want to not use only 1 made up timeline.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 11:40 am
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Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:38 am to SidewalkTiger
I get the list, but even the most myopic Alabama fan will tell you, the next Bama coach is going to have an almost impossible job. Due to expectations, he will likely be considered a failure by almost any metric, especially if Saban goes out on top.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:39 am to SidewalkTiger
“Ranking the top 10 college football top 10 rankings lists”
Kickoff can’t get here fast enough.
Kickoff can’t get here fast enough.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:47 am to SidewalkTiger
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1. Georgia
2. Texas
3. Alabama
The shorthorns are going through head coaches at the speed of light. They have won nothing and if you don't bring in recruits in the top 5 in the meantime, you'd be sitting next to Tom Herman in short fashion.
The BAMA job will break you if you aren't what you were supposed to be. Coach Fran and Curry couldn't emotionally cope with the standard and got on that plane.
I'm not sure what is considered a top job for everyone, but unless you just love constant pressure and relentless expectations, you don't go to jobs that are historically great. Remember kids:
Nick Saban + Ego + BAMA = The Rolling Stones.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:51 am to SidewalkTiger
Alabama's tricky. When they don't have an all-time great coach they don't really win championships. The problem is, they have had the top 2 coaches of all time.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:59 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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Alabama's tricky. When they don't have an all-time great coach they don't really win championships. The problem is, they have had the top 2 coaches of all time.
Gene Stallings - 1992.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:03 pm to thunderbird1100
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LSU has finished top 10 only twice in the last 11 years.
We've finished ranked 8 times in the last 11 seasons
But how many of those were outside the top 10?
How many outside the top 15?
You can't do that to A&M without doing it to yourself.
And as I said... the difference between you and A&M is Joe Burrow.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:07 pm to SidewalkTiger
Alabama is still No 1 to me
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:12 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Of all SEC teams, only Alabama and Georgia have won more games than A&M since we joined the league. Those are also the only three SEC teams in that timeframe with multiple top 5 finishes in the final AP poll.
Surely you have a few championship trophies to show for all those wins
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:12 pm to Tridentds
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In the past there is no doubt that Notre Dame would have been top 2-3 without question.
Maybe in the 80's. They have refused to change with the times and invest in their program.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:21 pm to SidewalkTiger
Auburn is a better job than FSU. SEC vs ACC, both school have booster problems but Auburn’s aren’t poor/cheap like FSU.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:22 pm to meansonny
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But how many of those were outside the top 10?
How many outside the top 15?
You can't do that to A&M without doing it to yourself.
I listed out A&M has only 4 Top 25 AP finishes so not sure what you're talking about unless just purposely trying to be obtuse. We have double that in that same time frame.
We have been way consistently better than them the last 11 years.
We are 8-3 against them in that time frame.
We have a national title, conference title, and 2 SECCG appearances in that time frame to their 0 in all accounts.
We are not comparable at all in that time frame. This doesnt even include the literal year before they joined the conference we went 13-0, finished #2 and played for a national title while winning the conference if again we're just throwing out arbitrary time frames.
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And as I said... the difference between you and A&M is Joe Burrow.
Except we're still way better which you ignored and probably will again
Take out 2019 and we still are 7-3 against them with 7 ranked finishes to their 4...its not close. IF you're taking out our best year by your definition then take out theres, so we'd be 7-2 against them and 7 seasons finished ranked to their 3
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Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:34 pm to meansonny
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And as I said... the difference between you and A&M is Joe Burrow.
You cant possibly be this stupid or bad at math.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:40 pm to Basura Blanco
Without Joe Burrow, LSU has 0 top 10 finishes in the AP in the last 11 years (I'm not sure where 11 came from, but whatever. I can do the math).
Head to head is not reflective of a team's national relevance. That is why I ignore it when talking about the strength of a program.
As for the 2022 SEC championship appearance, LSU won a depleted division. When the East runner up cleans up against the 2 best teams in the west... congrats on being the largest turd in a crappy division. It happens sometimes (see UGA in 2011).
I have no problem with you laughing at A&M. But the same lense can be focused on LSU. 2 top 10 finishes in the last 11 years is not great. LSU fans like to act like their program is on stronger footing than it really is.
Head to head is not reflective of a team's national relevance. That is why I ignore it when talking about the strength of a program.
As for the 2022 SEC championship appearance, LSU won a depleted division. When the East runner up cleans up against the 2 best teams in the west... congrats on being the largest turd in a crappy division. It happens sometimes (see UGA in 2011).
I have no problem with you laughing at A&M. But the same lense can be focused on LSU. 2 top 10 finishes in the last 11 years is not great. LSU fans like to act like their program is on stronger footing than it really is.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:50 pm to NotImber
It was a more glamorous job before integration.
They took advantage of segregation and got the best players from the south regardless of skin color.
After integration, other programs in the south began to get those players that Notre Dame would get. While this didn't hurt all that much at first, they just weren't the dominant program of past decades as the years went on.
They took advantage of segregation and got the best players from the south regardless of skin color.
After integration, other programs in the south began to get those players that Notre Dame would get. While this didn't hurt all that much at first, they just weren't the dominant program of past decades as the years went on.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:53 pm to meansonny
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Without Joe Burrow, LSU has 0 top 10 finishes in the AP in the last 11 years (I'm not sure where 11 came from, but whatever. I can do the math).
Head to head is not reflective of a team's national relevance. That is why I ignore it when talking about the strength of a program.
As for the 2022 SEC championship appearance, LSU won a depleted division. When the East runner up cleans up against the 2 best teams in the west... congrats on being the largest turd in a crappy division. It happens sometimes (see UGA in 2011).
I have no problem with you laughing at A&M. But the same lense can be focused on LSU. 2 top 10 finishes in the last 11 years is not great. LSU fans like to act like their program is on stronger footing than it really is.
Without Stetson Bennett, Georgia has 0 national championships in the last 40 years.
Georgia fans like to act like their program is on stronger footing that it really is.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:53 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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quote:15. Auburn Is it?
If it is ability to win, absolutely. If it is about coaching stability, not even close.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:58 pm to meansonny
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Head to head is not reflective of a team's national relevance. That is why I ignore it when talking about the strength of a program.
Yep, you are indeed that stupid.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 1:11 pm to SidewalkTiger
If Texas is such a great job, why have they had such bad coaching hires the last 10 or 11 years? They’ve hired 3 new HC in that time and all of them were like their 5th or 6th choices…
And all 3 HC have sucked.
And all 3 HC have sucked.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 1:11 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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If it is ability to win, absolutely. If it is about coaching stability, not even close.
UT and FSU are ranked above Auburn on this list, who have roughly equivalent coaching stability compared to Auburn. UT has less fertile recruiting grounds and FSU is in a dead end conference with massive resource deficits to Auburn (both from a conference and booster perspective).
If anything, Auburn should be higher a few spots, but I get the recency bias
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 1:14 pm
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