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re: 2025 Auburn Basketball is Historically Strong
Posted on 2/5/25 at 2:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 2/5/25 at 2:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
George is ultimately correct.
It’s important to keep in mind what these ratings are. At the end of the day they absolutely give 0 fricks about results. All they care about is raw efficiency. They don’t care who you’ve beaten or lost to. Only how you’ve gone about it.
They are a useful tool for gauging matchups and all that but ultimately are not going to tell you much about résumé.
Case in point no one is seriously saying Houston should be a 1 seed right now.
It’s important to keep in mind what these ratings are. At the end of the day they absolutely give 0 fricks about results. All they care about is raw efficiency. They don’t care who you’ve beaten or lost to. Only how you’ve gone about it.
They are a useful tool for gauging matchups and all that but ultimately are not going to tell you much about résumé.
Case in point no one is seriously saying Houston should be a 1 seed right now.
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 2:24 pm to Bigbens42
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Case in point no one is seriously saying Houston should be a 1 seed right now.
Absolutely. Tournament seedings should be based on wins and losses. KenPom/Torvik should be used for nothing other than trying to get an idea of what teams are good at, matchups, etc. What matters is winning games - no matter how you do it and even if it seems "lucky" or not.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 2:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Absolutely. Tournament seedings should be based on wins and losses. KenPom/Torvik should be used for nothing other than trying to get an idea of what teams are good at, matchups, etc. What matters is winning games - no matter how you do it and even if it seems "lucky" or not.
NET is meant to *try* and square that circle between quality and résumé, but it still too heavily favors efficiency IMO, which at the end of the day makes it a useful tool but not an ideal ranking system.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 2:46 pm to AUTiger789
Let's just hope they don't draw the Ivy League champ in the tournament again this season.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 2:53 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Let's just hope they don't draw the Ivy League champ in the tournament again this season.
I think if anything last year was a serious reminder of what happens when you aren’t battle tested. We entered the SEC tournament with 3 Q1 wins under our belt, and 2 of those came in the SEC tournament where the Red Sea basically parted for us.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:57 pm to AUTiger789
I'm an LSU fan and our team is garbage. However, would love to see Auburn take it all when March Madness rolls around. Good Luck!
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:58 pm to Darth_Vader
They lost okeke to injury in the tourney. Without that the barn definitely would have won the nattie in ‘19. Was a fun team to watch.
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 2/5/25 at 6:50 pm to Atxgump
I think it's cool Auburn has a great basketball team...it gives their students something to actually get excited about. Kids are graduating Auburn in May without ever witnessing just a winning football season while on campus...so kudos to Pearl for giving them something at least.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 5:43 pm to AUTiger789
*bump*
Posted on 2/8/25 at 5:49 pm to Sid E Walker
They really thought they were better than 2015 Kentucky
Posted on 2/8/25 at 5:52 pm to Sid E Walker
Breaking: Auburn lost and has now fallen from being the projected overall #1 seed all the way down to just the projected #1 overall seed. Just brutal.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 5:56 pm to AUTiger789
Duke will get the 1 seed if they win out. Just cause it's duke
Posted on 2/8/25 at 5:58 pm to FlyDownTheField
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Duke will get the 1 seed if they win out. Just cause it's duke
No they won’t. Unless we bomb, or unless (believe it or not) Bama does too.
Not without some absolute frickery on the metrics
Posted on 2/8/25 at 5:59 pm to AUTiger789
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Breaking: Auburn lost and has now fallen from being the projected overall #1 seed all the way down to just the projected #1 overall seed. Just brutal.
Bro - your analysis compared AU’s mid season results to teams that included full season results including NCAAT performance.
The correct comparison would have been to teams that had above 32 points at the same part of the season that AU was at, and the results would be much less favorable than comparing to after NCAAT metrics. You literally had three 2025 teams on your list, which showed the hilarity of the bias. AU has a great team this year, but they have to perform in March to be considered historically good. Try to understand how data and modeling works before you get ahead of yourself.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:00 pm to FlyDownTheField
#1 overall seed ain’t all it’s cracked up to be
More pressure for programs not used to having it
More pressure for programs not used to having it
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:02 pm to Frac the world
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#1 overall seed ain’t all it’s cracked up to be More pressure for programs not used to having it
I mean you always take the field vs the favorite given it’s practically always like 1 to 5 odds.
Still better being perceived as having 1 in 5 than 1 in 10.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:07 pm to Bigbens42
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Still better being perceived as having 1 in 5 than 1 in 10.
100%.
And you hope you don’t blow a 7 point 2nd half lead by shooting 3-30 on 3s while a super senior SDSU team is allowed to foul you 4 times every possession without getting called, all while you have the best basketball player in your program history. That one still stings a bit, but last year’s F4 helped.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:08 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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100%.
And you hope you don’t blow a 7 point 2nd half lead by shooting 3-30 on 3s while a super senior SDSU team is allowed to foul you 4 times every possession without getting called, all while you have the best basketball player in your program history. That one still stings a bit, but last year’s F4 helped.
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:14 pm to Bigbens42
Thought you might appreciate that one.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:17 pm to Bigbens42
I know the math and the odds make sense, it SHOULD be the easiest path.
But it’s just my nature not to want that overall #1, and yes two years ago still bothers me lol
It’s not me being a revisionist, I was uncomfortable with it then even though they did earn it. When you haven’t been there before there’s just a certain pressure carried with it that I don’t like.
I’m sure both of us can agree those F4 runs as 4 and 5 seeds were fun as shite, not expecting it. Overall 1 seeds it’s expected, and that’s harder
But it’s just my nature not to want that overall #1, and yes two years ago still bothers me lol
It’s not me being a revisionist, I was uncomfortable with it then even though they did earn it. When you haven’t been there before there’s just a certain pressure carried with it that I don’t like.
I’m sure both of us can agree those F4 runs as 4 and 5 seeds were fun as shite, not expecting it. Overall 1 seeds it’s expected, and that’s harder
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