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re: 2022 Alabama is better than 2023 Bama will be

Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:37 pm to
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I'm no huge Obrien fan, but I think he is being used as a cop-out so we don't have to face reality. He's the same coordinator that set records last season. We have massive talent deficiencies, especially at WR, that some just can't admit.


I wasn't going to respond to you but BoB’s scheme is terrible, route trees are awful, and playcalling is worse than anything. He threw the ball 51 times when Bryce was obviously hurt and struggled to get the ball to his receivers. BoB is our problem on offense and it's not debatable. If you think differently, you can't be watching the games.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:42 pm to
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OL that can't consistently run block


Yes we can. He abandons the run as fast as he can. OL is not an issue and we have WR talent but our best ones are all Fr and So.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15374 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:57 pm to
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What is the magic that you suggest he sprinkle onto the offense?
Hardly magic.

Go back and look at last year. A lot of RPO plays, where we had a back who could go inside, outside or catch the ball. You can look at which RB is in the game and know what the run plays are.

We were predictable last year, but the talent at RB and WR was able to overcome it. We don’t have it now, but we run plays as if we did. Then there’s the platoon of receivers we’re using. How is Bryce going to develop timing with them when it’s a different grouping every other play?
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 10:59 pm
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:05 pm to
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I'm struggling to find any reason 2023 Alabama won't be a further dropoff from this team. This was supposed to be the dominant team with next season lining up as a rebuild year.

Milroe as QB? Or an untested Ty Simpson?
Same WR corp that played like shite against UGA in the title game, and all of this season.
No obvious OL solution. Losing 3-4 starters.
TE Latu gone.
HB Gibbs likely gone.
Losing a minimum of 7 defensive starters including Will Anderson.
Saban another year older. Same DC likely. Maybe stuck with Obrien again.

Can anyone point to any concrete reason Bama should improve? The only optimism I see is that Texas, LSU, Ole Miss, and Tennessee will be home games.


That is a really nice Home Schedule you all have next year, Season ticket holders have some good games on that lineup
Posted by Lcguy
Member since Jan 2020
924 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:09 pm to
They will need a Qb, but who's going to be available
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:27 pm to
I really really want to make fun of y’all and say that Saban is done but I know that he’ll pull in a ridiculous transfer class with the already ridiculous recruiting class and upgrade his coordinators
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2700 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:58 pm to
I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Saban is an average coach, but the best recruiter. He has been playing ball with a better roster. Better athletes from top to bottom cover a lot of issues and make most coordinators / coaches look like GODS.

Bama's edge has he has out recruited LSU in Louisiana. Go look back at Bama's most dominant teams, most of that is Louisiana boys. Imagine those teams minus those players and you have average to slightly better than average teams.

UGA, A$M and now LSU stepping up recruiting has hurt Saban.

LSU winning year one with BK is HUGE. If LSU starts to put a fence around Louisiana, Bama will be middle of the pack SEC team
Posted by lsutiger333
Member since Dec 2012
202 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:24 am to
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Eli Ricks and Jermaine Burton have done next to nothing


Burton did have that one big hit at tennessee
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22645 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:05 am to
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I'm struggling to find any reason 2023 Alabama won't be a further dropoff from this team. This was supposed to be the dominant team with next season lining up as a rebuild year.

Milroe as QB? Or an untested Ty Simpson?
Same WR corp that played like shite against UGA in the title game, and all of this season.
No obvious OL solution. Losing 3-4 starters.
TE Latu gone.
HB Gibbs likely gone.
Losing a minimum of 7 defensive starters including Will Anderson.
Saban another year older. Same DC likely. Maybe stuck with Obrien again.

Can anyone point to any concrete reason Bama should improve? The only optimism I see is that Texas, LSU, Ole Miss, and Tennessee will be home games.


Melt bitch.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22645 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:06 am to
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Bama fans are drama queens and weird.


Many of them down right fricking suck.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15374 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:59 am to
You’ve seen this drama play out before I see
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5693 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:45 am to
All hope is lost.



Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42478 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:28 am to
And teams aren’t scared of bama anymore
Posted by Britlab
Nashville
Member since Jan 2014
341 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:32 am to
You know who sucks third down, both bama’s coordinators! Shame on Saban for for taking the easy way out, both in keeping them for continuity’s sake and losing his make them quit mindset.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33060 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:37 am to
I’m sure you guys will get some stud transfers to fill in gaps. JG is an unbelievable talent that wasn’t there last year. Surprised Burton hasn’t done more. I remember what a stud he was coming out of high school
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30871 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:48 am to
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He's the same coordinator that set records last season.


That’s because he had Young throwing to Williams and Metchie and did nothing to adapt when those two were no longer available.

He’s great when he’s got a talent advantage at every skill position but refused to change things up.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:28 am to
quote:

Bama's edge has he has out recruited LSU in Louisiana. Go look back at Bama's most dominant teams, most of that is Louisiana boys. Imagine those teams minus those players and you have average to slightly better than average teams.

UGA, A$M and now LSU stepping up recruiting has hurt Saban.

LSU winning year one with BK is HUGE. If LSU starts to put a fence around Louisiana, Bama will be middle of the pack SEC team




This is dumb. Sure Saban pulls a couple good Louisiana kids a year, but you are talking as if LSU just now started recruiting well and Saban's entire model was built around locking down Louisiana. Take away Louisiana kids and Saban would have found another 4 or 5 star in Miami, LA, Dallas, or DC.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:32 am to
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Melt bitch.



You got more punchlines or you want to answer the question? I didn't say I was going to give up or quit watching. I gave my honest opinion that this isn't some easy fix like turning around the 2010 team was. We will be good, we will be contenders, but we lose a lot. Hell, we may end up with a better record but be a worse team.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17268 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:52 am to
BoB comes back and that turns me into a soccer fan.
Saban knows what needs to be done. I’ll give him a chance but if coaching personnel isn’t shaken up by the end of spring training 9-3 will be all we can look forward to.
Maybe…
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7530 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:56 am to
Reality starting to set in for the Gumps?
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