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2020 WSJ College & University Rankings are out
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:17 am
SEC:
VU 17
UF 63
A&M 78
UGA 147
AU 249
UT 270
LSU 295
OM 311
UK 323
USCe 348t
MIZ 348t
UArk 401-500
MSU 401-500
UAla 401-500
2020 WSJ College & University Rankings
VU 17
UF 63
A&M 78
UGA 147
AU 249
UT 270
LSU 295
OM 311
UK 323
USCe 348t
MIZ 348t
UArk 401-500
MSU 401-500
UAla 401-500
2020 WSJ College & University Rankings
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:23 am to TailbackU
Top 300 Check-in thread! 
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:25 am to TailbackU
what's their methodology?
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:26 am to TailbackU
Lol, LSU is not a better school than South Carolina or Alabama
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:28 am to Clyde
OM that high seems off
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:28 am to NYCAuburn
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what's their methodology?
Click that link my good man
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:30 am to TailbackU
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Click that link my good man
Have to sign up and wont allow me to open in incognito
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:47 am to NYCAuburn
Removing environment, which is silliness - Outcomes 50, Engagement 25, Resources 25
14. Vanderbilt
51. Florida
70. Texas A&M
110. Georgia
208. Auburn
236. Tennessee
258. LSU
286. Ole Miss
292. Kentucky
296. Missouri
323. South Carolina
377. Alabama
386. Arkansas
401-500. Mississippi State
14. Vanderbilt
51. Florida
70. Texas A&M
110. Georgia
208. Auburn
236. Tennessee
258. LSU
286. Ole Miss
292. Kentucky
296. Missouri
323. South Carolina
377. Alabama
386. Arkansas
401-500. Mississippi State
This post was edited on 9/5/19 at 10:50 am
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:48 am to TailbackU
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VU 17
UF 63
A&M 78
UGA 147
AU 249
UT 270
Big 6?
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Removing environment, which is silliness - Outcomes 50, Engagement 25, Resources 25
Which is why I asked. The rankings use some of the most ridiculous stuff, and people then think they are academic rankings as well. (looking at you USNWR)
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:51 am to TailbackU
These don't really count.
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:52 am to TailbackU
Does actual school happen at Bama?
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:53 am to NYCAuburn
quote:
what's their methodology?
It's a survey; a peer poll
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:53 am to TailbackU
And we were #66 in USNWR 2019.
But, UGA was #46, so frick that. I am going with WSJ.
But, UGA was #46, so frick that. I am going with WSJ.
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:53 am to NYCAuburn
Methodology
The overall methodology explores four key areas:
Resources
Does the college have the capacity to effectively deliver teaching? The Resources area represents 30 per cent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:
Finance per student (11%)
Faculty per student (11%)
Research papers per faculty (8%)
Engagement
Does the college effectively engage with its students? Most of the data in this area are gathered through the THE US Student Survey. The Engagement area represents 20 per cent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:
Student engagement (7%)
Student recommendation (6%)
Interaction with teachers and students (4%)
Number of accredited programmes (3%)
Outcomes
Does the college generate good and appropriate outputs? Does it add value to the students who attend? The Outcomes area represents 40 per cent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:
Graduation rate (11%)
Value added to graduate salary (12%)
Debt after graduation (7%)
Academic reputation (10%)
Environment
Is the college providing a good learning environment for all students? Does it make efforts to attract a diverse student body and faculty? The Environment area represents 10 per cent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:
Proportion of international students (2%)
Student diversity (3%)
Student inclusion (2%)
Staff diversity (3%)
The overall methodology explores four key areas:
Resources
Does the college have the capacity to effectively deliver teaching? The Resources area represents 30 per cent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:
Finance per student (11%)
Faculty per student (11%)
Research papers per faculty (8%)
Engagement
Does the college effectively engage with its students? Most of the data in this area are gathered through the THE US Student Survey. The Engagement area represents 20 per cent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:
Student engagement (7%)
Student recommendation (6%)
Interaction with teachers and students (4%)
Number of accredited programmes (3%)
Outcomes
Does the college generate good and appropriate outputs? Does it add value to the students who attend? The Outcomes area represents 40 per cent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:
Graduation rate (11%)
Value added to graduate salary (12%)
Debt after graduation (7%)
Academic reputation (10%)
Environment
Is the college providing a good learning environment for all students? Does it make efforts to attract a diverse student body and faculty? The Environment area represents 10 per cent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:
Proportion of international students (2%)
Student diversity (3%)
Student inclusion (2%)
Staff diversity (3%)
This post was edited on 9/5/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:57 am to SummerOfGeorge
I mean to be completely honest, the only one of those that truly matters is outcomes. All the other things are supposed to be baked in to create good outcomes.
100% Outcomes
18. Vanderbilt
34. Florida
53. Texas A&M
67. Georgia
172. LSU
183. Auburn
237. Tennessee
271. Missouri
299. Ole Miss
329. Arkansas
343. Alabama
347. Kentucky
357. South Carolina
392. Mississippi State
And, as has been discussed ad nauseum, the outcomes for different schools are drilled down to the actual programs they offer and their mission. When outcomes are judged by how much money you make, well some schools have massive degree programs geared at jobs that are needed but are NEVER going to make a lot of money. So in any analysis of outcomes that is strictly money those entire programs outcomes are going to register as shitty.
100% Outcomes
18. Vanderbilt
34. Florida
53. Texas A&M
67. Georgia
172. LSU
183. Auburn
237. Tennessee
271. Missouri
299. Ole Miss
329. Arkansas
343. Alabama
347. Kentucky
357. South Carolina
392. Mississippi State
And, as has been discussed ad nauseum, the outcomes for different schools are drilled down to the actual programs they offer and their mission. When outcomes are judged by how much money you make, well some schools have massive degree programs geared at jobs that are needed but are NEVER going to make a lot of money. So in any analysis of outcomes that is strictly money those entire programs outcomes are going to register as shitty.
This post was edited on 9/5/19 at 11:03 am
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Proportion of international students (2%)
Student diversity (3%)
Student inclusion (2%)
Staff diversity (3%)
any entity using these to come up with a ranking system can frick right off
Posted on 9/5/19 at 11:00 am to secuniversity
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These don't really count.
No university rankings count.
If you're trying to figure out what the best school to attend is, you should be looking at how the individual programs/departments are ranked. I graduated from LSU in 1990 from a program that was ranked in the top 15 in the country - public and private. LSU as a university hasn't sniffed the top 100 since probably the 50s.
Posted on 9/5/19 at 11:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I mean to be completely honest, the only one of those that truly matters is outcomes. All the other things are supposed to be baked in to create good outcomes.
100% Outcomes
18. Vanderbilt
34. Florida
53. Texas A&M
67. Georgia
172. LSU
183. Auburn
237. Tennessee
271. Missouri
299. Ole Miss
329. Arkansas
343. Alabama
347. Kentucky
357. South Carolina
392. Mississippi State
Winner, Winner. Chicken motherfricking dinner.
College is for improving one's life (mainly the pursuit of happiness aka wealth/prosperity). Outcome is the only thing that matters.
Posted on 9/5/19 at 11:03 am to WG_Dawg
I agree with you. frick that shite.
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