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AUlock54
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
Frick I don’t want to be in the top ten, that means we’ll under perform. Give AU a 20-25 ranking and we’ll be ready to exceed expectations.


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thunderbird1100
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
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Florida plays two FCS opponents


I realize UF is playing Miami and FSU for the first time together in a season since forever, but that's really pathetic to schedule 2 FCS teams by their AD. Only 1 of those even counts towards bowl eligibility.

This was after playing 2 this past season, but at least they scheduled Idaho when they were FBS.
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BHMKyle
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
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So basically, Texas should be substituted with Auburn in all those silly "way too early" preason rankings?


This measures how strong a team is, not necessarily where the team will end up ranked at the end of the year.

Auburn plays 7 opponents this year in the S&P+ preseason Top 20..... Texas plays two.

So yes, there is a very good chance that Texas will finished ranked way ahead of Auburn, but if the two squared off on a neutral field during Week 1, Auburn could very easily be the better team.


SummerOfGeorge
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I realize UF is playing Miami and FSU for the first time together in a season since forever, but that's really pathetic schedule by their AD. Only 1 of those even counts towards bowl eligibility.


The strangest thing is it doesn't look like the 2019 slate was caused by anybody backing out - they just scheduled it like that. It doesn't make any sense. You could play any number of 30-40 FBS teams that are nearly as bad as a FCS team and avoid all the bad pub that will inevitably come from this. There just doesn't seem to be any reasoning behind it.
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BHMKyle
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The strangest thing is it doesn't look like the 2019 slate was caused by anybody backing out - they just scheduled it like that. It doesn't make any sense.


It's the Dan Mullen scheduling formula going into effect. Play the softest OOC schedule possible to get to 4 wins, then just be sure to beat the two weakest SEC opponents on the schedule and you are guaranteed a bowl appearance.

How do you think Mullen managed to be like 0-50 against ranked teams yet still make a bowl game about every year?

My guess is the Miami game had been scheduled years in advance so he and Strickland realized they better load of on FCS teams to try to compensate for it.


SummerOfGeorge
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It's the Dan Mullen scheduling formula going into effect. Play the softest OOC schedule possible to get to 4 wins, then just be sure to beat the two weakest SEC opponents on the schedule and you are guaranteed a bowl appearance.

How do you think Mullen managed to be like 0-50 against ranked teams yet still make a bowl game about every year?

My guess is the Miami game had been scheduled years in advance so he and Strickland realized they better load of on FCS teams to try to compensate for it.




But that's the thing - schedule UMass or Ball State as your #2 bad game. Scheduling 2 FCS teams is bad press catnip. And in reality it isn't even much different than 1 FCS team and 1 terrible FBS team. It's just a terribly stupid self inflicted wound.


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bigDgator
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
Fla trying to be more like Bama.


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3morereps
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
what is notre dame?



never mind saw they're 12th in link*
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hoojy
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Not sure how I feel about 37th, but we do lose alot.

If our secondary was any greener, I'd smoke it.



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FearlessFreep
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So yes, there is a very good chance that Texas will finished ranked way ahead of Auburn, but if the two squared off on a neutral field during Week 1, Auburn could very easily be the better team.
You obviously haven't watched us play early in the year in the Gustav Era


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LSU Patrick
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I truly hope that Texas is ranked higher than us when we roll into Austin.

Can’t. Wait.


It will be like Miami last year.


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Jebadeb
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
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Who is State returning?


Wondering this too. Their D probably can keep up, but what about the offense without Fitz?
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LSU Patrick
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I thought last year was the year State returned a bunch? Thus, the too lofty expectations.


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JesusQuintana
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
List is not shit


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thunderbird1100
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
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It's the Dan Mullen scheduling formula going into effect. Play the softest OOC schedule possible to get to 4 wins, then just be sure to beat the two weakest SEC opponents on the schedule and you are guaranteed a bowl appearance.



Well, except they basically screwed themselves out of 1 win for bowl eligibility by scheduling 2 FCS teams.

They only play 11 qualifying games next year for bowl eligibility. So if things unraveled a bit for them next year and they finished 6-6, they would be 5-6 in terms of bowl eligibility and not eligible.
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fibonaccisquared
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
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35. Texas - 8.9

Whew, it's going to be fun watching them fall off that preaseason top 10 perch.


Not making any indication as to where they should be this year, but don't forget, the way that pre-season S&P+ is calculated does have a heavy factor associated with "recent history" meaning the past 4 or 5 seasons IIRC? So there is likely a bit of that going on keeping their current pre-season S&P+ suppressed a bit.


thunderbird1100
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re: 2019 S&P+ Preseason Rankings
Here's S&P's 2018 Top 25 projection in February of 2018 with AP finish in parenthesis:

1 Ohio State (3)
2 Alabama (2)
3 Clemson (1)
4 Washington (13)
5 Auburn (UR)
6 Georgia (7)
7 Notre Dame (5)
8 Penn State (17)
9 Oklahoma (4)
10 Michigan (14)
11 Michigan State (UR)
12 Wisconsin (UR)
13 Miami-FL (UR)
14 Mississippi State (UR)
15 USC (UR)
16 LSU (6)
17 Central Florida (11)
18 Florida State (UR)
19 Oklahoma State (UR)
20 Stanford (UR)
21 Virginia Tech (UR)
22 TCU (UR)
23 Oregon (UR)
24 Texas A&M (16)
25 Ole Miss (UR)

Not a bad Top 10, an awful 11-25 though
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thunderbird1100
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Not making any indication as to where they should be this year, but don't forget, the way that pre-season S&P+ is calculated does have a heavy factor associated with "recent history" meaning the past 4 or 5 seasons IIRC? So there is likely a bit of that going on keeping their current pre-season S&P+ suppressed a bit.



Returning production is hitting them a bit harder than that on the breakdown.


SummerOfGeorge
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Not a bad Top 10, an awful 11-25 though


Yea - plus S&P+ is measuring "how good a team will be", not what their record will be.

Just logically the S&P+ has 6 SEC West teams in the Top 25 - there is no way all 6 of those teams will have good enough records to be in the final AP Top 25. Now, not all of them were Top 25 quality either, but it's hard to compare the two.


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