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re: 2019 LSU vs 2021 Georgia
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:37 am to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:37 am to Funky Tide 8
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what does that have to do with my post?
It’s pretty simple. You are trying to use the transitive property to compare 2021 UGA to 2021 Bama to 2019 LSU. You are saying that your WRs being out affected the outcome. I’m saying our best WR played less which also affected the outcome.
Got it now?
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Nobody is arguing the Bama/UGA result. They are pointing out that when Alabama had 2 healthy recievers (2+ qtrs in game 1) they moved the ball very effectively. This is being pointed out because LSU had 2 recievers better than that plus a bevy of other offensive options.
The conversation has moved from which unit is better to which team is better.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:39 am to NitsFan71
Considering Jameson Williams alone skull fricked UGA in the SECG, what do you think Jefferson and Chase would’ve done?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:39 am to diddlydawg7
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The conversation has moved from which unit is better to which team is better.
Damn shapeshifters
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:40 am to JetDawg
quote:Lulz. We were assured the Uga & Clemson had elite defenses that year, yet we stomped both teams with ease.
In 2019, no one had a defense.
You weren't stopping that NFL offense at any point in your school's history. Just accept it, and move on with your life.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
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LSU's 2019 offense had 2 elite pass catchers (Chase, Jefferson) and 3 incredible complimentary pass catchers for their roles (Marshall, Moss, CEH). I don't see anyway the Georgia secondary covers that. They were good but not great and Burrow would have hit every open man (of which there would have been 1-2 on every play).
Georgia would kill some drives with sacks, but that LSU offense would have exploited things in the pass game.
It would largely come down to LSU's OL vs UGA's DL. UGA's secondary was not exceptional last year, just very good. UGA's ability to get pressure on QB's (not necessarily sacks, but to force the QB to throw early) is what made their pass defense work. To be honest I don't remember how good the LSU OL was in 2019.
To be honest, I think Burrow was more composed as a QB than Young was last year. Young didn't handle the pressure as well as Burrow was able to. That probably would have given LSU the edge overall. But it would have been interesting to see. If UGA's constant pressure on passing downs and stoutness against the run forced Burrow into a pick or two... they might have "won" the matchup. That's not to say UGA would have won overall depending on if the offense was able to avoid killer mistakes.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:41 am to diddlydawg7
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You are saying that your WRs being out affected the outcome.
I think that anyone that watched those games would come to the conclusion that UGA had trouble covering our top 2 WRs. Do you disagree?
So basic logic would lead me to believe that they would also have trouble covering two future NFL all-pro WRs.
That was the entire point of my post.
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I’m saying our best WR played less which also affected the outcome.
Sure, who said that it didn't??
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Got it now?
I got that you are pretty insecure?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:41 am to diddlydawg7
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Pickens played fewer snaps than Jamo
I’ll never understand this talking point. One guy was on a snap count all year and barely played. The other was the team’s leading receiver by a huge margin and got injured last game of the year. Say it’s part of the game and theirs no excuses that’s fine. But comparing a guy who was coming off ACL injury and playing limited snaps to a guy who played the whole year then got hurt doesn’t correlate at all.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:46 am to DawginSC
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But even then the reality was UGA had one off quarter against Bama. UGA's defense allowed 0, 24, 7, 3, 3, 6, 0, and 9 points in their 8 quarters against Bama last year. The 2nd quarter of the SECCG was bad for UGA... but it was also an anomaly. If UGA had that quarter against LSU they'd obviously lose. If they didn't, it's not nearly as clear a decision
That’s what elite, explosive passing offenses do. Score in chunks. There would have been one of those quarters for LSU too.
21 in a quarter vs Clemson
28 vs OU
21 vs A&M
17 vs UGA
17 vs Ole Miss
21 vs Arky
24 vs Bammer
You get the point
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Nobody is arguing the Bama/UGA result. They are pointing out that when Alabama had 2 healthy recievers (2+ qtrs in game 1) they moved the ball very effectively. This is being pointed out because LSU had 2 recievers better than that plus a bevy of other offensive options.
Bama had one good quarter against UGA's defense.
Here are the points Bama's offense scored against UGA in each quarter.
0, 24, 7, 3, 3, 6, 0, 9
UGA had a horrible second quarter in the SECCG. But that was really it.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:48 am to BamaBy50
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But comparing a guy who was coming off ACL injury and playing limited snaps to a guy who played the whole year then got hurt doesn’t correlate at all.
Who cares when the injuries occurred? Our best WR was hurt and so was yours.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:49 am to NitsFan71
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Smart was asked about the LSU offense and what about it took the SEC by storm.
“I’ve been in this league for a long time, and I don’t know if I’ve seen the combination of things they’ve got,” he said. “They’ve got an elite quarterback that’s a really good athlete. They have a back that is a matchup guy. He matches up on anybody and go win. They’ve got really good wideouts and they’ve got experience at the offensive line. So they go tempo, but they don’t go tempo just to run the ball. They go tempo to take shots. They never change personnel, they play 28 consecutive snaps with the same people on the field, so it does not allow you to substitute in the pattern that you want to. So there’s a combination of a lot of things.”
2019 LSU is tGOAT
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 9:51 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:52 am to NitsFan71
Lsu was fortunate Fromm and our decimated WR corp let them off the hook in 2019.
Goes down to the wire and Bennett leads the comeback win.
Goes down to the wire and Bennett leads the comeback win.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:56 am to NitsFan71
2019 LSU, no question.
2021 Georgia was a great team with an awesome defense, but I think 2019 LSU was a more complete team.
2021 Georgia was a great team with an awesome defense, but I think 2019 LSU was a more complete team.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 10:03 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:57 am to diddlydawg7
No your best receiver was hurt all year and you game planned around it because you had to all year. You got other guys involved. Bama had their 2nd best receiver get hurt in the SECCG and their best get hurt in the NC. Trying to rewrite a game plan with 2 games left and then rewriting it again with 3 quarters left isn’t even close the same as having all year to game plan around your best receiver being hurt.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:59 am to BamaBy50
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I’ll never understand this talking point. One guy was on a snap count all year and barely played. The other was the team’s leading receiver by a huge margin and got injured last game of the year. Say it’s part of the game and theirs no excuses that’s fine. But comparing a guy who was coming off ACL injury and playing limited snaps to a guy who played the whole year then got hurt doesn’t correlate at all.
Not sure why you're struggling with this. UGA's #1 and #2 receivers in 2020 were Pickens and Jackson. Both were hurt for 2021 and played very limited snaps at the end of 2021 due to those serious injuries.
UGA was without their top 2 wideouts all year. Bama was without their top 2 for 3 quarters of a game. We don't have much sympathy for you.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:59 am to NitsFan71
Better question is, which team COULD beat that 2019 LSU team?
2021 Georgia wouldn't have scored enough. Which was kind of the thing that entire year, nobody was outscoring that LSU offense.
2021 Georgia wouldn't have scored enough. Which was kind of the thing that entire year, nobody was outscoring that LSU offense.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 10:00 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:00 am to BamaBy50
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Trying to rewrite a game plan with 2 games left and then rewriting it again with 3 quarters left isn’t even close the same as having all year to game plan around your best receiver being hurt.
We could’ve had three more WRs go down and we would’ve been fine. It’s called depth.
If one injury causes your entire gameplan to be thrown out the window, then Saban is responsible for the loss.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:02 am to BamaBy50
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No your best receiver was hurt all year and you game planned around it because you had to all year. You got other guys involved. Bama had their 2nd best receiver get hurt in the SECCG and their best get hurt in the NC. Trying to rewrite a game plan with 2 games left and then rewriting it again with 3 quarters left isn’t even close the same as having all year to game plan around your best receiver being hurt.
Lol. No offense but changing gameplans happens in EVERY game. UGA changed their defensive gameplan after a disastrous second quarter against Bama in the SECCG and their defense gave up a total of 10 points in the second half.
Bama changed their gameplan in the second half of the NCG in 2017's NC and won a title because of it.
That's simply fiction saying that changing gameplans in the middle of a game doesn't happen. It's constant in almost every game. The big difference is UGA's second string WR's stepped up and Bama's didn't. It wasn't about changing a gameplan, it was about Bama's backups not being able to perform.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:04 am to CP3forMVP
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Better question is, which team COULD beat that 2019 LSU team?
I think it would have had to have been one of those awesome 90’s/early 2000’s teams that ran more often and could play ball control with studs on offense. Like a 2001 Miami or 1995 Nebraska. They’d have an advantage up front I think, those teams were loaded at the LOS
I kinda think the game changed around 2014 or so and LSU has been the best of the bunch when it comes to teams that spread you out and whoop your arse
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