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re: 2019 LSU Tigers vs 2020 Alabama Crimson Tide. The argument is now settled.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 1:29 am to BradHawpe
Posted on 1/15/25 at 1:29 am to BradHawpe
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Alabama hasn't won a NC since 2017 and the program is on the downhill. They will always strive to past up the greatest season of all time in 2019 LSU and will never come close. It's bad enough they haven't won a NC in 8 years
2020 Alabama was so much better that LSU fans have to pretend the entire season didn't exist.
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:24 am to PastorJ
It's not the most competitive when 30 % of the total players in the sec didn't play.
You guys honestly don't remember players missing games because a failed test?
Short term memory just like the government wants. It's sad
You guys honestly don't remember players missing games because a failed test?
Short term memory just like the government wants. It's sad
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:36 am to PastorJ
LSU might win, but would they put a sac on a face at Krystal after the game?
Bama might lose, but would LSU campus be carpet bombed with agent orange?
I don’t think either would “rip their eyeballs out and skullfrick them.”
Bama might lose, but would LSU campus be carpet bombed with agent orange?
I don’t think either would “rip their eyeballs out and skullfrick them.”
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:59 am to PastorJ
even robots are LSU fans baw I love it
Posted on 1/15/25 at 5:41 am to RockyRococco
If Tua isnt hurt in 2019 we arent even having this conversation 2019 Bama whips that Tigah arse..
Posted on 1/15/25 at 5:52 am to PastorJ
I didn’t need to ask ChatGPT to know Joe Burrow vs Mac Jones is laughable.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 6:01 am to antibarner
I have told everyone the 2019 Alabama is far better than 2020.
Those saying Bama fans do not push the issue of 2020, need to check all the post made Bama 2020 is the best team of all time.
I do not even have the Bama 2020 team as a top 20 all time and have the 2019 ranked ahead of the 2020 team.
I still LSU 1919 as one of the top 3 and number 1 at this time.
With all the all-pros from that team this a given.
Those saying Bama fans do not push the issue of 2020, need to check all the post made Bama 2020 is the best team of all time.
I do not even have the Bama 2020 team as a top 20 all time and have the 2019 ranked ahead of the 2020 team.
I still LSU 1919 as one of the top 3 and number 1 at this time.
With all the all-pros from that team this a given.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:23 am to 3down10
quote:aaaaaand then the debate included 2019 LSU. Your perpetual bitching about it continues the debate.
No, it was also 1995 Nebraska when the debate was between them and 2001 Miami.
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LSU fans need to cling on to 2019 as the GOAT because you're all stuck trying to compare your dicks to Alabama
wrong kiddo. Y’all can’t stand the fact that 2019 LSU is debated as the best ever and it hurts your feelings. It is a derangement syndrome.
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So you have to exaggerate the accomplishment so you can say "Oh we have something over Alabama".
Your paranoia is fueling the argument. When 2019 thrashing over Clemson happened, no LSU fan ever said “now we have something over Alabama”. Dude. Get over this. This is sad. You are creating this narrative in your head. Rent free.
You, yourself, said this.
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Clemson gave up 628 yards to LSU while playing with the so called "best DC coordinator in college football right now" and a bunch of players who weren't banged up after playing an easy schedule
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And with you in particular, you need to believe that the Alabama fanbase is somehow butthurt about your stupid claims for pointing out the truth.
This is my favorite part. You act as if any team in the sec doesn’t get this right. And for that reason, you In particular ARE “Butthurt”.
Be less sad in your life, son.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:35 am to dstone12
Oh and add this fuel to the fire.
Your boy antibarner says
Sounds like you can add another “generational quarterback” in a year of amazing quarterbacks that LSU beat in the sec.
He says we aren’t having this conversation, but he really doesn’t want to have that conversation. : lol:
Your boy antibarner says
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If Tua isnt hurt in 2019 we arent even having this conversation 2019 Bama whips that Tigah arse..
Sounds like you can add another “generational quarterback” in a year of amazing quarterbacks that LSU beat in the sec.
He says we aren’t having this conversation, but he really doesn’t want to have that conversation. : lol:
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:55 am to dstone12
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aaaaaand then the debate included 2019 LSU. Your perpetual bitching about it continues the debate.
You didn't have an elite defense, so you aren't the GOAT. You aren't even in the top2. 3rd at best.
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wrong kiddo.
Y’all can’t stand the fact that 2019 LSU is debated as the best ever and it hurts your feelings. It is a derangement syndrome.
People said the same shite about Alabama in 2020, and while it was better than 2019 LSU it was still not better than 95 Nebraska because Alabama only beat Florida by 6 points. That one 6 point game in the SECCG knocked Alabama out and stupid arse LSU fans this they deserve it with worse wins of 3, 5 and 7.
95 Nebraska dominated it's opponents. 2019 LSU did not. You barely beat multiple teams.
In fact, you can almost fit the MOV of 3 of your games into the 1 single closest game 95 Nebraska had. Nebraska closest MOV = 14 points. 3+5+7 = 15 points.
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Your paranoia is fueling the argument. When 2019 thrashing over Clemson happened, no LSU fan ever said “now we have something over Alabama”. Dude. Get over this. This is sad. You are creating this narrative in your head. Rent free.
You, yourself, said this.
Yes you did. And then LSU fans had to turn around and pretend 2020 didn't happen after Alabama had a better season.
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This is my favorite part. You act as if any team in the sec doesn’t get this right. And for that reason, you In particular ARE “Butthurt”.
Be less sad in your life, son.
I'm not sad, I love this topic. I've been debating it for decades and love to highlight the metrics and standards that should be used to judge. Miami and LSU fans both constantly site off the field accomplishments while 95 Nebraska arguments always relies on actual results on the field.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:58 am to dstone12
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Oh and add this fuel to the fire.
Your boy antibarner says
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If Tua isnt hurt in 2019 we arent even having this conversation 2019 Bama whips that Tigah arse..
Sounds like you can add another “generational quarterback” in a year of amazing quarterbacks that LSU beat in the sec.
He says we aren’t having this conversation, but he really doesn’t want to have that conversation. : lol:
I dont' give a shite what other people say. I guess you're so desperate now you have to start using other peoples arguments.
I though it was fitting that Burrow won the game and the Heisman. He took what the defense gave him and didn't try to be a super star. Meanwhile, Tua's dumb arse tried to win the Heisman by being a hero and forcing things he shouldn't have and it resulted in him not only losing the game, but also the Heisman.
Maybe you should spend your time arguing with those people.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 12:04 pm to antibarner
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If Tua isnt hurt in 2019 we arent even having this conversation 2019 Bama whips that Tigah arse..
Yeah it's not like LSU shut down 2 current NFL starting Qb's in the playoffs.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 12:40 pm to PastorJ
Imagine thinking Joe Burrow has only a slight edge over … *checks notes* … Mac Jones.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 12:44 pm to PastorJ
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Alabama’s 2020 team was more polished and battle-tested in terms of preparation, given the challenges of a pandemic season.
Playing away games with 15,000 fans in the stadium and facing a 7 win team for the national title during a season where entire conferences and multiple players opted out. The horror of that gauntlet lmao
Posted on 1/15/25 at 12:59 pm to FireDanMullen
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Playing away games with 15,000 fans in the stadium and facing a 7 win team for the national title during a season where entire conferences and multiple players opted out. The horror of that gauntlet lmao
How many of the 38 points LSU lost by do you think the stadium would have made up and how come it didn't seem to make a difference this year?
LSU is considered the hardest away game by many, so where is that big difference? Which game would the outcome of have changed?
Ohio St had an advantage by only playing 7 games. They still got to practice, but they didn't have teams exposing them and giving film, didn't have as many injuries from playing the games, etc. It's funny because excuse makers like you would use the same exact excuse in reverse if Alabama had only played 7 games and Ohio St had played 12.
Alabama played 11 of the best teams the SEC had to offer.
But yeah, that Alabama team got all the advantages. They were the only team that didn't have to deal with the same conditions that apparently devastated everyone else.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 1:13 pm to dstone12
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I did you LSU fans a favor and fixed the rankings on this image. Now you can use an image with the correct rankings by the teams.
I used the best ranking available between the AP and Coaches. So I gave Texas the #25 ranking instead of being unranked, and both Florida and Oklahoma are #6 in 2019. I think the difference was basically 1 rank every time.
It's still a pretty dumb image, but at least it's 1 less dumb thing about it.
You're welcome.
This post was edited on 1/15/25 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 1/15/25 at 1:42 pm to 3down10
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How many of the 38 points LSU lost by do you think the stadium would have made up and how come it didn't seem to make a difference this year? LSU is considered the hardest away game by many, so where is that big difference? Which game would the outcome of have changed?
You’re ranting and raving doesn’t change the fact playing away games with no crowd is considerably easier than playing away games with 100,000 fans on top of you. That’s literally all I said
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Ohio St had an advantage by only playing 7 games.
This is rich. The best teams get better as the season progresses. Saban has probably been quoted saying that a million times. You’d rather have played 2015 Bama in game 7 than in game 15? Or 2019 LSU in game 7 than 15? Id love to hear that analysis.
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funny because excuse makers like you would use the same exact excuse in reverse if Alabama had only played 7 games and Ohio St had played 12.
What excuses? I just said 2020 shouldn’t be celebrated as this larger than life team with the circumstances. I by no means think they should be viewed with an asterisk. They won a championship during COVID. It’s counts. I just don’t believe they should be viewed as this mythical team. and you’ve ranted for 4 paragraphs telling me how playing games with less fans poses no disadvantage and how Ohio state only playing 7 games is actually good? Lmao. You’re the most biased poster on this board. I’m a Florida fan I have no dog in the fight perhaps you should look at things other than through biased tinted glasses
This post was edited on 1/15/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 1/15/25 at 2:01 pm to FireDanMullen
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You’re ranting and raving doesn’t change the fact playing away games with no crowd is considerably easier than playing away games with 100,000 fans on top of you. That’s literally all I said
It's like 1.5 to 3 points according to Vegas.
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This is rich. The best teams get better as the season progresses. Saban has probably been quoted saying that a million times. You’d rather have played 2015 Bama in game 7 than in game 15? Or 2019 LSU in game 7 than 15? Id love to hear that analysis.
I guess when Ohio St played Clemson the week prior, the game difference wasn't important? Clemson got blown the frick out. How many more games did Clemson need to play to have enough advantage?
What he likely implied is that the best teams have to get better as the season goes on because the level of competition at the end of the season is higher. Players are working every week to get better, so naturally they improve over the year. Ohio St was still practicing and getting better IIRC.
Are you telling me next year if Alabama and Florida were to meet up in the SECCG, you would be happier if Alabama had only played 7 games going into it rather than the 12 games you played? Hell no, everyone would be up in arms about Alabama having an advantage.
Do you know why Clemson beat Alabama in 2018? Because BV is a good defensive coach and he followed the blueprint that Miss St had the same year. Without that Miss St game, Clemson doesn't have the film. BV beat Alabama this year as well using the Vandy strategy.
Why do QBs often have "sophomore slumps"? Because people have film on them and stop the things that give them success. A QB has to get over that by adjusted and progressing beyond it. It can still happen in the same season as well though with enough film and coming across the right teams, or if you play in some crappy league and a few games, not at all.
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What excuses? I just said 2020 shouldn’t be celebrated as this larger than life team with the circumstances. I by no means think they should be viewed with an asterisk. They won a championship during COVID. It’s counts. I just don’t believe they should be viewed as this mythical team. and you’ve ranted for 4 paragraphs telling me how playing games with less fans poses no disadvantage and how Ohio state only playing 7 games is actually good? Lmao. You’re the most biased poster on this board. I’m a Florida fan I have no dog in the fight perhaps you should look at things other than through biased tinted glasses
The circumstances are that it was a more difficult season than normal.
Why is it only an advantage for Alabama to play in an empty stadium, but not the opposing teams? Because it's a shitty excuse, that's why.
Why is it only an advantage for Alabama to have to deal with covid restrictions? Nick Saban missed a game, multiple weeks of practice, etc. Because it's a shitty excuse, that's why.
All you do is pretend that all the "circumstances" applied to everyone except Alabama. Which is pretty fricking stupid.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 2:12 pm to 3down10
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Why is it only an advantage for Alabama to have to deal with covid restrictions? Nick Saban missed a game, multiple weeks of practice, etc. Because it's a shitty excuse, that's why.
Again, you’re ranting, raving, and drawing biased conclusions to the team you support lmao. No one said Alabama had an advantage, you have to draw that up to try to have a point or argue. And paragraphs later, you’re arguing with yourself about your own biased opinion lmao. I said it’s objectively less difficult to play an away game with 15,000 compared to 100K. That’s the argument. Theres no “excuse” which you keep pointing to. It’s a fact. And of course, you can’t argue that so you go on a tangent about literally nothing lol.
Again, perhaps you should look at things with an objective fact based view other than the logo next to your username and every argument ending in “yeah my team’s position is the best” lmao.
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What he likely implied is that the best teams have to get better as the season goes on because the level of competition at the end of the season is higher. Players are working every week to get better, so naturally they improve over the year. Ohio St was still practicing and getting better IIRC. Are you telling me next year if Alabama and Florida were to meet up in the SECCG, you would be happier if Alabama had only played 7 games going into it rather than the 12 games you played? Hell no, everyone would be up in arms about Alabama having an advantage. Do you know why Clemson beat Alabama in 2018? Because BV is a good defensive coach and he followed the blueprint that Miss St had the same year. Without that Miss St game, Clemson doesn't have the film. BV beat Alabama this year as well using the Vandy strategy. Why do QBs often have "sophomore slumps"? Because people have film on them and stop the things that give them success. A QB has to get over that by adjusted and progressing beyond it. It can still happen in the same season as well though with enough film and coming across the right teams, or if you play in some crappy league and a few games, not at all.
I’m not reading all of This shite lmao. I bet I can guess the convo you’re having with yourself ends in supporting bama’s cause lmao. You just come off as a ranting lunatic who’s insanely biased. I have no dog in the fight as a Florida fan and simply stated playing road games at 1/6th capacity and playing a 7 win team for the national championship is objectively less impressive lol.
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