re: 2012 US News and World Report Top Public Universities-SEC edition

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ACT score for incoming Freshman was 27.2

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Im not saying this isn't true, but its incredibly high, like Ivy League high

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Im not saying this isn't true, but its incredibly high, like Ivy League high

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It is good, but I don't think it is that high. Most Ivy Leagues you need well above a 30. The middle 50% of the UF freshman class scored between a 28 and a 32.

California, California, California.

Berkeley #1, again.

L.A. #2

San Diego #8
Davis #9

And for good measure Irvine #11

It wont be like that for long. Money.
U.C.L.A. is now losing its top prof's to schools that can pay more.

On a side note I did hear the freshman class was less hotter than typical freshman classes at Auburn.

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California, California, California.

Berkeley #1, again.

L.A. #2

San Diego #8
Davis #9

And for good measure Irvine #11

It wont be like that for long. Money.
U.C.L.A. is now losing its top prof's to schools that can pay more.

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Also, the California schools all vote for eachother (yes, that's how this shite works). I heard this straight from a dude who taught at one of the UC campuses. He says they're not bad schools and all, but aside from Berkely and UCLA, they're pretty average.

From what I can tell, there are only a handful of public schools that can really call themselves "elite" regarding educational quality and opportunities (big emphasis on the latter). Those schools would be, in no particular order: Berkely, UVA, Michigan, Texas, Florida, and UCLA with a few schools like Georgia, Wisconsin, TAMU, and others hanging in there as "bottom of the top."

Then there's a HUGE middle class of schools where the rest of the SEC fits as well as most other large state schools (one can nitpick within that tier, but, depending on what your major is, one can do pretty well at any of them).

And then you've got the public schools that most of us forget are there; schools like Valdosta State, Southern Miss, North Alabama, etc etc and so forth.

One can pick nits all they'd like. I'm just going by what I've observed.

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That's about what UGA is right now. Seems a little high for AU but maybe dem kids is just gettin smerter

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I work with an Auburn guy who got an e-mail from the Auburn alumni association saying the average incoming ACT was a 27. That is impressive.

As for your assertion that the two schools (Bama and Auburn) have vastly different admission standards, I don't have the hard data you seem to have. All I know is that I had a few Auburn friends that were very marginal high school students (putting it kindly) that easily got into Auburn just as was the case with a couple of my Alabama friends that got into Alabama. In other words, the idea that Auburn is much more difficult to get into wasn't the case at all in the mid 90s when my friends and I got into both schools. I don't know where that myth comes from. Both schools have only gotten more selective since then though.

UF and UGA are clearly the 2 most difficult public SEC schools to get into.

AU is much tougher to get into than UA. AU has a higher acceptance rate but that is driven by the fact that we have a smaller # of folks applying than Alabama, and there are a lot of folks with low scores trying to get into UA, who don't even apply to AU.

Think about this: AU has a higher incoming freshman class GPA/ACT than UA, AND has a much higher acceptance rate. Assuming that UA is accepting the top x% of their class and AU is doing the same, this tells us that the average applicant to AU is simply smarter than the average applicant to UA. But tell us something we didn't know.

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Didn't realize the big difference in acceptance rate
Bama- 53%
au - 79%

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This changes periodically. Alabama has been raising the standards in the past two years due to hitting the population goal 4 years earlier than Dr Whitt set. This is not indicative of anything other than each university trying to attract students or not exceed the ability to house, teach, etc.

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APIEE

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Your post doesn't reflect the results shown in the survey. While we all would like to think the institutions we graduated from are second to none, don't bring fan "homerism" into this. It makes you look like a Special Olympian - which judging from your post may be true.

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which, judging from your post, may be true.

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FIFY

It's an adverbial phrase and needs comma separation.

Hope this helps.