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re: 1977 Football Season Analysis (groundbreaking national champ implications)

Posted on 7/8/18 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by Kilgore Trout
Austin, TX
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 3:42 pm to
Now that you mention it, 1974 national champion USC lost their opening game to Arkansas 7-22. How you started the season never mattered. The only thing that counted was how you ended it.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 3:43 pm to
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Being old only means one has lived. It's cool


Getting old beats the hell out of the alternative.
Posted by SAINTS0321
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 3:49 pm to
Catholic corruption... anybody else in ND shoes even socal would not have jumped the Tide..


Posted by SAINTS0321
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 3:50 pm to
Ivan Maisel agrees with me book of lists most bogus titles cfb ND 66 77 top 5
This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 4:02 pm to
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True and if any team has a claim other than ND , then it is Bama. After all they beat the team (Ole Miss) that beat ND.
Would have been interesting if Bama and ND could have played each other post bowl.
That would have been a heck of a game.

Still I think they got it right.


shite happens. We have benefited from the bowl games(both winning and losing) having an effect on the national championship. The same thing happened to auburn in 83 that happened to Bama in 77.

Life goes on. The sun came up the next day. We've won 8 other Titles since then. No reason to dwell on it
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 4:38 pm to
Saints why are you so anti Catholic with a name like Saints?

Most of you younger people don’t realize that ND was a power house in those days.
They beat Bama back to back (Sugar Bowl
1973 - 24-23) and then after the 1974 season (Orange Bowl - 1975 - 13-11).

The ‘73 Sugar Bowl is considered “The Game of The Century”. So they were really good through that era.

I agree that their name helped them jump Bama but Bama’s name has helped them jump other schools over the years. It happens. Plus they skull dragged the #1 team who was unbeaten. Had it been a close game, then no way do they go all the way to #1.

I bet none of you of guys know who the starting QB was for ND in 1977?
None other than Joe Montana.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 5:28 pm to
Not anti Catholic ..anti corruption...it's homerism ..66 77 guilty
Posted by AshLSU
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 5:39 pm to
Is any decision based on human opinion justified?
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 5:47 pm to
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Notre Dame beat the team that beat Arkansas. /thread

And Alabama beat the team that beat Notre Dame...so you're saying Bama should've been #1?
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 5:49 pm to
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roger79
quote:

BTW, how is that 1976 Reader's Digest national championship treating you?


Bama claims no such NCs except for the maddening one in 1941. All of the others since 1936 and the advent of the AP are wire service claims, i.e., AP and/or UP/Coaches polls. They have 12, ND is second with 8.

Bama does not claim 1977 mentioned in this thread, though there are selectors who do. Bama does not claim the 10-0 1945 Rose Bowl winning number 2 team or the only undefeated/untied team 1966 team and 2 time defending NC. In fact it does not claim 13 years where some selector(s) chose them NCs. Why they add the 1941 claim is mind-numbing. If you want to add one, though I would not, add 45 or 66.

The 4 prior to 1936 are all reasonable claims. Undefeated/united 10-0 Rose Bowl winners (the only major bowl game in the country 'til '33) except for a tie with Pop Warner's 1926 undefeated/untied Stanford team. Both claim a piece of that NC. That's 16 in all not counting the ridiculous 1941 claim.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 5:52 pm to
We claim 45 66 75 77
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 5:53 pm to
Absolutely bama 1..and would be if not for notre dame national corrupt homerism
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 6:00 pm to
No mention of how Arky beat OU in that ‘77 Orange Bowl?

Switzer was caught banging his DC Larry Lacewell’s wife at the team hotel the day before the game. Lacewell tipped the plays & defensive sets to Holtz’s staff.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1805 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 6:02 pm to
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SAINTS0321
quote:

We claim 45 66 75 77

Maybe you do, but Bama fans in general and the University do not claim any of those years.

ND had a legit claim in 1977, as did Bama, and got the vote. Bama has had years where the reverse was true. You have a way of selecting a champ, you know what it is, and you take your best shot knowing and you live with the outcome. ND was the 1977 champ, not Bama. Frankly, in any year, even with playoffs, even when teams play head-to-head, much of the time it is difficult to say who really has the "best" team. Again, you have a process and you live with the outcome. Nothing wrong with trying to improve the process. But if you can't live with it, don't participate.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 6:02 pm to
Great story bro..and ark had a lot of players suspended
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 6:03 pm to
No...bama earned the natty in 77 but was stolen by corrupt voters per me and Ivan maisel and others
This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 6:04 pm
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 6:05 pm to
20 Natties and counting...all very legit claims to titles or co-titles
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65046 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 6:09 pm to
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But it all comes down to timing. ND lost its game earlier in the year


Alabama's lone loss was a loss to Nebraska, in Lincoln, in the second game of the season. In fact...Alabama and Notre Dame suffered their only loss on the exact same day (September 17).

Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 6:11 pm to
Bama to what top 5 10 nebraska by a TD...ND blowed out by 2 tds to a future 5 6 team
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65046 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 6:13 pm to
Indeed.

Alabama's first opponent of 1977 was Ole Miss, who they beat 34-13. The very next week, we lost in Lincoln to a Top 10 Nebraska team by a single touchdown. That same Ole Miss team we had just beaten by three scores upset Notre Dame in Jackson.

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