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re: 15 of the Top-100 just signed with 1 school.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:35 pm to Reservoir dawg
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:35 pm to Reservoir dawg
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He's not wrong. They should just let the same NFL semifinal and SB teams select the first several picks every year from now on, year after year after year. Do you dig it?
This is an ignorant argument. NFL players are selected and don’t have much say in who they go to. Every kid in college can pick any school they want to. This is a Stupid tired argument that’s not even close to equal.
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Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:36 pm to PrattvilleTiger
This is so sad.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:37 pm to labamafan
Which is why the NFL is a thousand times more interesting than CFB.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:38 pm to PrattvilleTiger
I remember when the Alabama/Auburn game felt like a forgone conclusion in the mid-2000s. People in Lee County didn't seem to mind much. Still appeared to very interested in the result, and telling all of us about said result.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:38 pm to PrattvilleTiger
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I mean we would have given him more time if he hadn't paid a stripper for a blowie
He literally never coached a game. Are you under the impression we fired him for his coaching performance?
The reason for the firing doesn't seem relevant to CapstoneGrad06's argument.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:40 pm to PrattvilleTiger
No it’s really not. If Auburn was competitive you’d feel a lot better. Like I said you’re arguing that Auburn can’t compete so hurt Alabama Clemson and Ohio State so that it’s fair to my team. So we want kids to be able to make all of their own deceiving about football except where they get To play at. This is really a losers mentality y’all have.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:41 pm to Papplesbeast
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The reason for the firing doesn't seem relevant to CapstoneGrad06's argument.
Yes, it is - Alabama would have loved to give Mike Price time to build. Mike Price forced their hand by doing things that forced the University to terminate him.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:44 pm to Papplesbeast
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So you're saying Alabama should have given Price and Shula more time?
I’m saying Alabama fired Price for cause because he used University credit cards to buy a hooker. And I’m saying Shula was under .500 in 75% of the seasons he coached.
I’m not sure why people continue to equate my statement on giving coaches more time to what Alabama experienced from 2001-2006.
And I didn’t even explicitly call out Auburn in my statement. But they did fire a guy who was 68-35 at AU. To hire a guy that was 69-19 at Boise. That may carry over to AU but it may not. It’s a gamble. But that’s where this cycle seems to start with every program that gets in this turnstile at the head coaching position.
The lack of continuity is a real problem in my opinion. The fact that there’s four head coaches in the country (P5) with 10+ years at their current job is telling.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yes, it is - Alabama would have loved to give Mike Price time to build. Mike Price forced their hand by doing things that forced the University to terminate him.
That's all well and good, but that has no bearing on whether or not giving Price more time would have improved the Alabama football program.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:47 pm to Papplesbeast
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The reason for the firing doesn't seem relevant to CapstoneGrad06's argument.
Well any coach doing what Price did deserves to be fired. And I’m not advocating that programs keep guys that are clearly not working out either. But firing at the first sign of trouble, even after years of progress, is mind boggling.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:48 pm to Papplesbeast
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That's all well and good, but that has no bearing on whether or not giving Price more time would have improved the Alabama football program.
Seriously dude? That’s a completely different argument considering Price never coached a game at Alabama to judge him on.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:51 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But firing at the first sign of trouble, even after years of progress, is mind boggling.
Who has done this?
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:52 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I’m saying Alabama fired Price for cause because he used University credit cards to buy a hooker. And I’m saying Shula was under .500 in 75% of the seasons he coached.
I’m not sure why people continue to equate my statement on giving coaches more time to what Alabama experienced from 2001-2006.
And I didn’t even explicitly call out Auburn in my statement. But they did fire a guy who was 68-35 at AU. To hire a guy that was 69-19 at Boise. That may carry over to AU but it may not. It’s a gamble. But that’s where this cycle seems to start with every program that gets in this turnstile at the head coaching position.
The lack of continuity is a real problem in my opinion. The fact that there’s four head coaches in the country (P5) with 10+ years at their current job is telling.
Alabama has arguably the greatest head coach in college football history. From where you sit it's pretty easy to lecture fans of other teams on the importance of consistency. Obviously Missouri should have given Barry Odom more time!
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:52 pm to Papplesbeast
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that has no bearing on whether or not giving Price more time would have improved the Alabama football program
If you can't (or won't) understand the intellectual point he is making this is kind of a useless conversation.
Firing coaches for on-field performance after a limited period of time is harmful to program stability is Capstone's (pretty obvious) point. Having to fire coaches for paying for strippers on the University credit card is also harmful to stability. However, the University has a choice in the first one. They do not in the second one.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:54 pm to Papplesbeast
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Obviously Missouri should have given Barry Odom more time!
Barry Odom inherited a solid football program from Pinkel (if not a bit erratic in his SEC tenure) and in 4 years showed no signs of improving it, even as there was an open window to become the #2 team in his division. I thought Missouri made the right move.
Schools are more than welcome to shoot their shot with coaches, but you also have to know your limitations and what options exist out there. Personally, I think Missouri realized they had a pretty bleh coach and that there were options out there that could take the program up a level (young, offensive minded recruiters). And they hired one.
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:56 pm to labamafan
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This is an ignorant argument. NFL players are selected and don’t have much say in who they go to. Every kid in college can pick any school they want to. This is a Stupid tired argument that’s not even close to equal.
It was a hypothetical scenario, Gumpy.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:58 pm to PrattvilleTiger
Scholarship caps now. It’s the only way.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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If you can't (or won't) understand the intellectual point he is making this is kind of a useless conversation.
Firing coaches for on-field performance after a limited period of time is harmful to program stability is Capstone's (pretty obvious) point. Having to fire coaches for paying for strippers on the University credit card is also harmful to stability. However, the University has a choice in the first one. They do not in the second one.
You're free to make assumptions about certain meanings that weren't actually articulated, but don't expect everyone else to agree that those arguments were actually made when they weren't explicitly articulated.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:59 pm to JesusQuintana
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Scholarship caps now. It’s the only way.
Hell yea, our average recruit ranking will go up even higher
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