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re: 12-1 Oregon vs 12-1 Alabama...who gets the final playoff spot?

Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:58 am to
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4193 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:58 am to
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Lone loss @ Washington


Why do you put that Alabama’s “lone loss” is to #7, but don’t put anything for Washington. Unless they are totally blown out, they likely would only drop to #5. That would give them the better loss.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
3127 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:04 am to
It’ll be Oregon but it should be Alabama.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4255 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:05 am to
I'll be happy after championship weekend is over where we don't have these what if's anymore.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5569 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:18 am to
The Pac-12 is stronger than the Big-12 this year. There is no opportunity to get 1 more impressive win in the Big-12 to make up for any losses. Beating Ok State doesn’t gain any traction. The Big-12 winner basically needs to be undefeated to jump a 1 loss Pac-12 winner. So Oregon would get in.

So the OU loss hurts Texas worse than the Alabama win from week 2 helps, because Milroe didn’t know what he was doing.
Bama beating Georgia would be more impressive.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16511 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:19 am to
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Better wins, better loss, better schedule. SEC champ. The SEC has had a team win, or lose the title game for 17 consecutive years.


No SEC team in the finals of the first playoff. Ohio State beat Oregon
Posted by Beachbum87
Las Vegas
Member since Oct 2022
1974 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Why do you put that Alabama’s “lone loss” is to #7, but don’t put anything for Washington. Unless they are totally blown out, they likely would only drop to #5. That would give them the better loss.


Maybe because it was already established in the line above they are #3.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16511 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:22 am to
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Unless they are totally blown out, they likely would only drop to #5. That would give them the better loss.


Texas would most likely be ranked above Washington in that scenario
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30897 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:23 am to
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SEC champion is in, 100%. I think FSU would get left out in this scenerio. What has FSU done, beat one ranked team?


They'll be undefeated.

The fact that they will have played the weakest schedule (save maybe Michigan, but without the big win over a huge opponent) will be meaningless.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:23 am to
$1000 dollars for things that won’t happen.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10277 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:31 am to
Oregon is 3 notches ahead of Alabama. If they beat #3 and Alabama beats #1, Alabama should not pass them in the poll. That’s silly.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
1381 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:37 am to
Oregon didn’t beat Arizona.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:40 am to
Alabama would undoubtedly have a better resume than Oregon but whether that means anything to the committee is anyone’s guess. It doesn’t look like it matters considering how they’ve slotted Oregon as the highest ranked one loss team with no good wins to claim.
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8519 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:41 am to
If FSU beat Louisville, they deserve to be in. They will be the undefeated ACC Champion and the ACC Champ has beaten the SEC Champ 3 times in the last 10 years for the National Championship. What other conference can claim that?
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:43 am to
FSU isn’t beating L’ville

Top 4 will be:
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Oregon
4. Ohio St/Texas (depending on who committee feels like screwing)
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16511 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:38 pm to
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Oregon is 3 notches ahead of Alabama. If they beat #3 and Alabama beats #1, Alabama should not pass them in the poll. That’s silly.


What’s silly is that Oregon is ranked above Alabama and Texas to begin with.
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10474 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:39 pm to
Bama

And it won't be a close debate.

The SEC champ will always get the nod over any other conference.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18738 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:47 pm to
When does this game happen..... because I don't see it. Creating hypotheticals never works.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
1381 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:54 pm to
I think people are sleeping on the fact that a 12-1 non conference champ Georgia still gets in. The back to back defending champ is not getting left out.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18204 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:01 pm to
Unless Alabama blows UGA's doors off and Oregon looks terrible in a win, it's Oregon in that scenario based on the love Oregon has received all year.

Of the committees espoused criteria to focus on for differentiation among close teams: championships won, SoS, head to head, and common opponents, UTx beats out Bama and Oregon; Bama beats out Oregon. However, unless they simply refuse to leave out an SEC team, I'm fairly certain they disregard the criteria and go straight eye test in Oregon's favor.

It would suck, but you have to win your games. So, it is what it is. It honestly sucks more for UGA slipping from 1 to 5 due to a single post-season loss after the run they've been on.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16511 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:29 pm to
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The back to back defending champ is not getting left out.


That's not in the criteria the Committee uses to determine the playoff teams.
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