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re: 1-7 scheduling model gaining momentum per SI’s Ross Dellinger

Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:18 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64500 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:18 am to
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It sucks, but it's been trending in the direction of this since the day we added Carolina and Arkansas and decided to be "forward thinking" aka make a lot of money.

IDK< when we added Carolina and Arkansas, it was the first time we actually had divisions and set schedules which wasn't a bad thing and wasn't too hard to manage with only 12 teams in the conference. WHere they screwed up at the startv was having two permanenets and only one rotating cross division game. If they'd started out with only one permanent cross-division game, you'd be playing every team from the other division at least once every 3 years and playing home and away everywhere every 6 years. They eventually did that, but then screwed that up when they added Missouri and A&M
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 11:19 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94915 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:18 am to
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What tradition were you forced to give up?
Night games

With the cbs contract, if they chose us, we had to play in the afternoon time slot
Posted by gamecockhub
Lexington, SC
Member since Sep 2017
366 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:18 am to
3-6 is the best. Hell no to 1-7
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79124 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:18 am to
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I bet he claims LSU had an entitlement to night games in Tiger Stadium and had to give up that entitlement to CBS, who got first pick of the games to air.



That's a real thing people say?
Posted by Texas Aggy
Member since Dec 2021
213 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:19 am to
"Night games" isn't a tradition lmao
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:19 am to
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IDK< when we added Carolina and Arkansas, it was the first time we actually had divisions and set schedules which wasn't a bad thing and wasn't too hard to manage with only 12 teams in the conference. WHere they screwed up at the startv was having two permanenets and only one rotating cross division game. If they'd started out with only one permanent cross-division game, you'd be playing every team from the other division at least once every 3 years and playing home and away everywhere every 6 years.


I don't think the 1992 moves were bad, it was just the first movement in what became the SEC looking to add things and change and become more powerful and richer. Everything before that was a good ole boy conference that was regional and fine with it. Everything after was looking for more, for better and worse.

2012 is certainly where things took off like a rocket ship.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 11:20 am
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:20 am to
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It sucks, but it's been trending in the direction of this since the day we added Carolina and Arkansas and decided to be "forward thinking" aka make a lot of money.

In 10 years it will be the NFL in roughly every way - bland schedules, big playoff, players on salary, etc.

However, even the NFL has teams play their rivals every year (2x, actually).


I'm afraid you're right.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64500 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:20 am to
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"Night games" isn't a tradition lmao

eh, LSU was one of the first college teams to have lights, so night games have kinda been a thing at LSU longer than most places. Before TV came into the fray, LSU never scheduled day home games.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 11:22 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84834 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:20 am to
Of course it is
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64500 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:21 am to
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I don't think the 1992 moves were bad, it was just the first movement in what became the SEC looking to add things and change and become more powerful and richer. Everything before that was a good ole boy conference that was regional and fine with it. Everything after was looking for more, for better and worse.

2012 is certainly where things took off like a rocket ship.

I know you and I have talked about this before, but SEC football, and college football in general, was at it's peak from the mid 90s through the early 00s.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84834 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:21 am to
Is this where we have fans of other schools tell us our traditions aren’t real?
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:21 am to
Exactly. Just another reason why 1-7 is stupid.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:21 am to
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I'm afraid you're right.


The newer generations will only know this stuff and be fine with it and all of us will be old and cranky and talk about how the good days were when we watched Vanderbilt/Kentucky on Jeff Pilot at the tailgate
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94915 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:22 am to
Aggy trying to talk about SEC traditions

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One of the Southeastern Conference's most storied and longest-running traditions will comes to an end this season as LSU’s Tiger Stadium will not host a night game between the Bayou Bengals and a league foe. The Tigers have not faced an SEC opponent this season in a home night game. When CBS tapped this weekend's contest with Auburn for the network's afternoon telecast, a 76-year streak came to an end.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:22 am to
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I know you and I have talked about this before, but SEC football, and college football in general, was at it's peak from the mid 90s through the early 00s.


Yep - and as we both said, a large chunk of that period both our teams stunk. That assessment has nothing to do with Alabama or LSU and everything to do with the state of the league and CFB. That was the end of the SEC being a truly southern league that cared about itself in general more than anything at a national level.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 11:23 am
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7151 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:23 am to
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I want 3-6 personally but I see why some schools like USC, Kentucky, Arkansas, State, Mizzou, would want 1-7


USC isn't in the SEC; they're located in the Western U.S., in the Pac-12 Conference.

Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79124 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:23 am to
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Is this where we have fans of other schools tell us our traditions aren’t real?



Not at all

It's just that your tradition is similarly a "tradition" for like 100 other schools
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:24 am to
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From what I understand, Texas and Oklahoma are getting a vote. Even though they haven't joined yet, it will affect them when it comes to fruition.


Texas and OU cannot vote if they are not members of the conference. It doesn’t matter if they are potentially joining in a couple of seasons. There is nothing in the SEC bylaws that allows members of another conference to vote.
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9280 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:24 am to
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Georgia-Auburn
Alabama-Tennessee
Texas-Oklahoma
Ole Miss-LSU

4 of the most historic interstate rivalries in college football, gone from being yearly contests.

I don't get it.




Thats what happens when things change.

I bet a lot on here dont realize that UF and Auburn played each other pretty much every single season from the 1920s until 2002. And since 2002 they have only played 4 times.

My point being that while it sucks and things change the SEC has made changes like this before. And after a decade or two majority of people forget and move on from it.

At least the 1/7 plan gets everyone in every other year.

The bigger issue with that plan is who is going to have who on each given year. And do the whole 7 swap each year?

Like for example will OM schedule look like

2025
MSU
Bama
LSU
Arky
A&M
Texas
OU
Auburn

then 2026 be
MSU
Tenn
UK
Florida
USCe
Mizzo
Vandy
UG

And it just swap between those every Odd/Even year? If so some years for certain teams they may have a better chance of making SEC champ game just because of how schedule lines up.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 11:24 am to
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Night games

With the cbs contract, if they chose us, we had to play in the afternoon time slot



I guess you're ignoring the day games LSU played in the past, even before the original expansion.
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