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% of Low Income Students who become Upper Middle Class

Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:18 pm
From the school profiles on Money.com. Hadn't seen this metric anywhere before. Pretty cool - one of the most important jobs of college IMHO, help lift a family from one economic point to another and climb the ladder.

Money - % of Low Income Students who become Upper Middle Class

(1) Vanderbilt - 59%
(2) Texas A&M - 45%
(3) Florida - 43%
(4) Georgia - 35%
(5) Arkansas - 33%
(6) Auburn - 32%
(7) Missouri - 30%
(8) Alabama - 25%
(9) Ole Miss - 24%
(10) Mississippi St - 20%
(11) Kentucky - 17%

LSU - N/A
South Carolina - N/A
Tennessee - N/A
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 2:22 pm
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:31 pm to
That's actually a really cool metric in theory. I just wonder how accurate it is.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:31 pm to
Define "Upper Middle Class" in this context.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Define "Upper Middle Class" in this context.
The higher end of the class in the middle.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:32 pm to
Georgia skews slightly lower due to how the HOPE scholarship affects the demographics of the admissions process, compared to how Vandy, AnM, and UF operate.

ETA- unlike traditional scholarship programs, the university cant take the best and brightest of the poor, but turns it into a lottery of sorts where non-academic factors amalgamate into a greater driver of acceptance than academics alone.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 2:35 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

That's actually a really cool metric in theory. I just wonder how accurate it is.



Considering it has to be based off the "payscale.com" data, probably not super accurate, but i like the idea of it at least.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Define "Upper Middle Class" in this context.




They didn't have any qualifiers or details. The 2018 census qualifies people nationally as being Upper Middle Class at $140K household income.

Of course, that varies greatly from region to region.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 2:36 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:38 pm to
$140k household is middle middle and I don't care what the census defined.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

$140k household is middle middle and I don't care what the census defined.



$140K ain't middle middle in New York City and it ain't middle middle in Evergreen, AL.

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

$140k household is middle middle and I don't care what the census defined.


lol, what?

Nationally, median income is more like $60,000/yr.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:42 pm to
Per person or household?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:49 pm to
looks like median household is 61k
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:51 pm to
I think a major factor for schools in the SEC, is how many generations removed students are from the first College Grad in the family. Most people in the South over 50 are first generation College grads. Right now those individuals have children in School, so the demographics are totally different. My guess those number listed increase about a 1% per year.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50409 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:52 pm to
One reason A&M does this so well.

quote:

Aggie Assurance
Texas A&M University has expanded its commitment to low and middle income students through the Aggie Assurance program. The Aggie Assurance aids students with family income of $60,000 or less by pledging to provide enough scholarships and grants to pay tuition for all eligible* students. The Aggie Assurance encourages Texans to pursue higher education at a flagship, research institution.

Aggie Assurance covers tuition – state mandated, designated tuition, and differential tuition. In essence, this is a commitment by the University that those below $60,000 in income will always have grants and scholarships to meet the tuition costs. At this time, the program does not include fees.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:55 pm to
Kinda dispels that hit piece on Alabama earlier this year that they only recruit students from only the wealthy, affluent suburbs.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Kinda dispels that hit piece on Alabama earlier this year that they only recruit students from only the wealthy, affluent suburbs.




Depends on where the 45% from Alabama fall.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Aggie Assurance

Sounds a lot like the Opportunity Vanderbilt program at Vandy that everyone bitches about during baseball. The Ole Miss, MSU, and LSU fans are going to jump all over this as unfair if A&M ever beats them in baseball.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

One reason A&M does this so well.



A&M and Florida do a great job of educating all of their state, rich and poor. Something to be proud of.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50409 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:08 pm to
I'm not sure D1 athletes are eligible for this and most of the baseball recruits don't meet these criteria.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6023 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:15 pm to
HOPE seems to be very similar to the Bright Futures scholarships in Florida.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 3:16 pm
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