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SCOTUS reporter: Jack smith’s case likely died today
Posted on 4/25/24 at 12:59 pm
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
US Supreme Court justices in Trump case lean toward some level of immunity
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Conservative U.S. Supreme Court justices signaled sympathy on Thursday to the argument that presidents have some immunity against criminal charges for certain actions taken in office as it heard arguments over Donald Trump's claim of immunity from prosecution for trying to undo his 2020 election loss.
Some of the questions posed during the arguments probed hypothetical examples of presidential wrongdoing such as selling nuclear secrets, ordering a coup or political assassination or taking a bribe. But some of the conservative justices, who hold a 6-3 majority, voiced concern about presidents lacking any level of immunity including for less obviously egregious acts.
"We're writing a rule for the ages," conservative Justice Neil Gorsuch, said during the arguments.
Trump appealed after lower courts rejected his request to be shielded from four election-related criminal charges on the grounds that he was serving as president when he took the actions that led to the indictment obtained by Special Counsel Jack Smith.
Conservative Justice Samuel Alito said a president is in "a peculiarly precarious position," as he expressed concern about presidents having to worry about being indicted.
"If an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent - will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy?" Alito asked Michael Dreeben, the lawyer representing the special counsel.
"And we can look around the world and find countries where we have seen this process where the loser gets thrown in jail," Alito added.
"So I think it's exactly the opposite, Justice Alito," Dreeben responded. "There are lawful mechanisms to contest the results in an election."
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So we didn't get him?
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:04 pm to stout
its cute you think this will end it. these judges dont respect SCOTUS decisions and neither does Biden's weaponzied DOJ
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Don't tell SFP.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:10 pm to TigerFred
So Roberts will write an opinion riding the fence?
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:11 pm to stout
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Conservative U.S. Supreme Court justices signaled sympathy on Thursday to the argument that presidents have some immunity against criminal charges for certain actions taken in office
This is patently obvious. Any other argument or ruling is absurd on its face.
The questions are the level of immunity, and what the distinction is between official acts and personal acts if any, acts done after they are out of office, and what defines that line between official and personal.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:12 pm to GumboPot
If you are relying on Roberts good luck.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:14 pm to stout
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"So I think it's exactly the opposite, Justice Alito," Dreeben responded. "There are lawful mechanisms to contest the results in an election."
Yet actions taken by the Dems in 1960, 2000, 2004, and 2016 are protected while some of those same actions taken by Trump are being prosecuted.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HailHailtoMichigan!
My condolences.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:18 pm to Fun Bunch
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Fun Bunch
whoa! thought you had run away for good with jon spam to DU!
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Conspiring to unlawfully influence an election by asking the state to investigate- Bad.
Conspiracy to lawfully influence an election through one party lawfare that seeks to criminalize the opposition, -Good.
The crime here, is being Donald Trump. Therefore, anything he does, is a criminal. Give me the man and I will find the crime.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:27 pm to Fat Bastard
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whoa! thought you had run away for good with jon spam to DU!
Why would I be on DU?
Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:05 pm to stout
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There are lawful mechanisms to contest the results in an election.
That is a highly suspect statement.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:07 pm to Fun Bunch
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Why would I be on DU?
Because you sound just like those low t soi bitches.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Likely.
I want a confirmed kill.
I want a confirmed kill.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:11 pm to Grigio
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Because you sound just like those low t soi bitches.
You support someone that was a democrat in recent memory, that gave large contributions to democrat candidates, that has run to the left of all of his opponents this election cycle, that literally endorsed a democrat for governor of Georgia in 2020 over a conservative republican, and made multiple personal attacks against conservative republicans...
the person I supported did none of those things, and has never been a democrat or endorsed any democrat. And ran as a far right wing candidate.
So the statement makes no sense at all.
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