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Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:40 pm to TOFTR
Some people are happiest when they are miserable.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:41 pm to TOFTR
One good thing doesn't negate 10 bad things. People are right to bitch about Luke. I'm glad we got Ealy but it's not going to make a difference until we actually get way more talent around him and a coaching staff that knows what the frick they are doing.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:44 pm to Doresrules
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Oh look, Luke and staff have another 4 star DL commit today....
Yeah Luke sucks...
We got four and five star commitments all the time under Freeze. Luke gets one every six months, if that. He was last in the West in recruiting and had a losing season. Let me guess though..... All Freeze's fault? Sounds just like the Obama supporters who blamed everything bad that happened on Bush even 8 years into his presidency
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:34 am to Henry Jones Jr
Obama supporters? Wth are you talking about?
Luke had a losing team with a defense that wasn't suited to play in CUSA. That was in fact Freeze fault, unless you are going to convince me that Freeze players were not his fault. Crime dog Luke should have fired him but Freeze hired him to begin with. Freeze hired Longo who took the most talented offense we've had this century and got nothing out of them.
Freeze went to the made those trips to happy time, Freeze didn't redact the numbers even though given the chance. Freeze didn't fire Barney even though warned.
Last in the west at 22. A year removed from a bowl ban, a losing record, and the worst defensive talent in program history. 9th in the SEC. Losing OC and DC. What did you really expect?
All of this has been rehashed a million times and you already know these things. You don't care because you've made up in your mind Luke will fail no matter what.
Luke had a losing team with a defense that wasn't suited to play in CUSA. That was in fact Freeze fault, unless you are going to convince me that Freeze players were not his fault. Crime dog Luke should have fired him but Freeze hired him to begin with. Freeze hired Longo who took the most talented offense we've had this century and got nothing out of them.
Freeze went to the made those trips to happy time, Freeze didn't redact the numbers even though given the chance. Freeze didn't fire Barney even though warned.
Last in the west at 22. A year removed from a bowl ban, a losing record, and the worst defensive talent in program history. 9th in the SEC. Losing OC and DC. What did you really expect?
All of this has been rehashed a million times and you already know these things. You don't care because you've made up in your mind Luke will fail no matter what.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:37 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Sounds just like the Obama supporters who blamed everything bad that happened on Bush even 8 years into his presidency
Wrong board baw
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:46 am to Doresrules
Look, blame Freeze all you want during the Freeze years but Luke is responsible for the Luke years. A program is going to trend upward or downward and that is how you evaluate a coach. What is bullshite is blaming Freeze for coaches that he never coached a single game with. First off, we don't know what steps Freeze would have taken to remediate any problems. He may have fired Crime Dog after one game but we will never know, because he did not have a chance to deal with that. What I think would happen is that Freeze would have handled this completely differently than Luke has, who simply seemed to roll with his coordinators pretending that there was not a problem. I'm not even certain that Luke would have fired Longo had he not been hired away.
As I stated, a program trends upwards or downwards during a coach's tenure. I don't see Ole Miss trending upward and that is directly or indirectly the responsibility of Luke. Remember, Freeze has not coached a game at Ole Miss since 2016.
Recruiting - Down
Fan support & Ticket sales - Way Down
Head coach - Down
Assistant coaches - Even / Possibly up
Player support - Down
Public perception - Down
Wins / Losses - Down
If I take an objective view of the upcoming season, I would predict the following:
Memphis - Loss (because of coaching and game preparation)
Arkansas - Toss-up (only because Arkansas was really bad last year)
SELA - Win (SELA outmatched)
California - Loss
Alabama - Blowout loss (Bama could beat our starters with their freshmen only when in 2016 we played them to the wire solely on our coaching.)
Vanderbilt - Loss
Missouri - Loss
Texas A&M - Loss
Auburn - Loss
NM State - Win
LSU - Loss
MSU - Loss
It is going to be an ugly year. Another bowl-less year. Another losing season. Another failed recruiting class.
In other words, I don't see how we get out of the hole that we are in with Luke. Only a coaching change can get us out and right now, the hole is only getting deeper.
As I stated, a program trends upwards or downwards during a coach's tenure. I don't see Ole Miss trending upward and that is directly or indirectly the responsibility of Luke. Remember, Freeze has not coached a game at Ole Miss since 2016.
Recruiting - Down
Fan support & Ticket sales - Way Down
Head coach - Down
Assistant coaches - Even / Possibly up
Player support - Down
Public perception - Down
Wins / Losses - Down
If I take an objective view of the upcoming season, I would predict the following:
Memphis - Loss (because of coaching and game preparation)
Arkansas - Toss-up (only because Arkansas was really bad last year)
SELA - Win (SELA outmatched)
California - Loss
Alabama - Blowout loss (Bama could beat our starters with their freshmen only when in 2016 we played them to the wire solely on our coaching.)
Vanderbilt - Loss
Missouri - Loss
Texas A&M - Loss
Auburn - Loss
NM State - Win
LSU - Loss
MSU - Loss
It is going to be an ugly year. Another bowl-less year. Another losing season. Another failed recruiting class.
In other words, I don't see how we get out of the hole that we are in with Luke. Only a coaching change can get us out and right now, the hole is only getting deeper.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 10:48 am
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:19 am to Landmass
If you are the CEO of the business and you hire a two clowns as presidents to run the business then you leave, I have everything right to judge you for hiring two people that NEVER deserved the job to begin with.
No rational person claims 2017 as Luke first year. He has absolutely no way of succeeding. He up until the Egg Bowl had no idea he would actually get the job.
Going into 2018 and leaving McGriff and Longo as coaches in hindsight was a bad move. But he didn't hire them. He also rushed firing them, losing the entire recruiting class and having every shred of talent on the team transfer to other schools. Imagine OM with that defense with no Brown, no Little, no Lodge.
Trending down? Trending down from what? A bowl band? You can't possibly judge the guy based off one year. That isn't fair or rational at all.
Please do the exact same deal with Freeze year one as far as wins and losses.
Matt Luke is the coach. Why not support the players and this team and be positive and when/if the time presents itself that a change is imminent then jump on that board. Luke hasn't done anything that would warrant being fired. He has to do better but he knows that. He needs fans to get behind him and the program.
No rational person claims 2017 as Luke first year. He has absolutely no way of succeeding. He up until the Egg Bowl had no idea he would actually get the job.
Going into 2018 and leaving McGriff and Longo as coaches in hindsight was a bad move. But he didn't hire them. He also rushed firing them, losing the entire recruiting class and having every shred of talent on the team transfer to other schools. Imagine OM with that defense with no Brown, no Little, no Lodge.
Trending down? Trending down from what? A bowl band? You can't possibly judge the guy based off one year. That isn't fair or rational at all.
Please do the exact same deal with Freeze year one as far as wins and losses.
Matt Luke is the coach. Why not support the players and this team and be positive and when/if the time presents itself that a change is imminent then jump on that board. Luke hasn't done anything that would warrant being fired. He has to do better but he knows that. He needs fans to get behind him and the program.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:54 am to Landmass
Assistant coaches are absolutely up.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:56 am to Doresrules
Brown little and lodge were only leaving if we fired Luke. Not the assistant coaches.
So you’re blaming Ross not Freeze?
So you’re blaming Ross not Freeze?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:15 pm to WithaRebelYell
quote:So glad we appeased three players who were only here for one more season, and a losing one at that.
Brown little and lodge were only leaving if we fired Luke
Seriously, we would have been better off telling them to leave and hiring someone that wasn't Matt Luke
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:38 pm to WithaRebelYell
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Assistant coaches are absolutely up.
They are? I guess I missed where they coached a game here. They could be great or it could be the worst staff ever assembled. Why not hold judgement until they have some games under their belts and go through a recruiting cycle?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:44 pm to Doresrules
Honestly Dores, I guess we should blame all of the previous coaches. It was all their fault that Luke has zero game preparation or coaching skills. Luke is the coach and even though he makes terrible descisions, we should support him so that he gets at least 10 years to try to win instead of getting a real coach in here that knows what the frick they are doing.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 4:07 pm to Henry Jones Jr
We could of hired the NC state coach. shite keeps me up at night.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 4:10 pm to Landmass
If you don’t think MacIntyre and Rich Rod aren’t improvements you need to have your head examined. We’ve got our old D cordinator as our LBs coach.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 6/5/19 at 6:29 pm to WithaRebelYell
Dave Doeren would’ve likely been the hire if we hadn’t gone with Luke, and, man, if y’all hate Luke, imagine having a marginally more successful Luke on a longer deal with a much higher buyout. At least now we can comfortably get rid of Luke after this season and be in a position to hire someone better than Doeren
Also, frick Hugh Freeze for hiring Longo and McGriff, and double frick Hugh Freeze for taking essentially a lifetime appointment as our HC and pissing it all away out of hubris
Also, frick Hugh Freeze for hiring Longo and McGriff, and double frick Hugh Freeze for taking essentially a lifetime appointment as our HC and pissing it all away out of hubris
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:30 pm to TOFTR
You think he’s the same as Luke hahahahahaha fricking hilarious. He takes shits that are better coaches than Luke.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:43 pm to Landmass
Wait, what? This is quite contradictory. Are we supposed to despise Luke and the assistants and want them gone or are we supposed to give them a chance, a season, a recruiting cycle thereby "holding judgement." I'm confused.
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Assistant coaches are absolutely up.
They are? I guess I missed where they coached a game here. They could be great or it could be the worst staff ever assembled. Why not hold judgement until they have some games under their belts and go through a recruiting cycle?
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 6/6/19 at 12:29 pm to TOFTR
quote:Huh? How is he not miles better than Luke?
imagine having a marginally more successful Luke
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:29 pm to Henry Jones Jr
One of the dumbest things I've ever read. Imagine what he would of done with Brown, little and Metcalf.
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