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Henry Jones Jr
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
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and not to thread hijack.. but I'm starting to view the flag like gay marriage... what I mean is, sure I may have different feelings on it... but it really doesn't have any effect on me at all whatever is on the flag so i'm ok with changing it to appease the potential oppressed ...
This comes from aging and maturing.

When you get older, you realize that you need to take others and how they feel into consideration. Everyone wants to feel accepted and heard.


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256Rebel
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
My two cents. I don't care if the flag is changed. While I don't like the FNCAA & SEC sticking their unethical noses into Mississippi's business, if the flag needs to be changed to allow a segment of Mississippi's citizenry to feel comfortable and included, fine, change it.

All I ask is that we stop this piecemeal crap. Make the changes all at once. Dragging it out over the last 25-30 years has done nothing but cause anger and resentment. A dull knife always hurts worse than a sharp one. Change the nickname, change the flag, move the statues ... fine. Just stop dragging it out.


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DMagic
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
The problem the business is we are voluntarily associated with the “non-profit” and it makes its entire nut on not paying poor black kids but somehow a state flag will solve racial inequality.

The rank hypocrisy is the same as the left used to rake the evangelical right with for years. Planks in eyes and all that


DMagic
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
The flag is meaningless to me. So is every flag to me I couldn’t care less about flags. Changing it changes nothing materially at the university or the state. It’s not going to raise our living standards or attract better businesses. It’s not going to better education or help raise the children that are abandoned across the delta and coast. It’s not going to keep young college graduates from leaving for greener pastures.

So celebrate change and progress. Just let me know when all that success after changing the symbols is coming. I’ll still be sitting in my same seats complaining.


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UMRealist
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
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The problem the business is we are voluntarily associated with the “non-profit” and it makes its entire nut on not paying poor black kids but somehow a state flag will solve racial inequality.
100% agree. I think that will be changing soon too though.


Insideradvantage
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
If the SEC weren’t such a cash cow they could kiss my big ol white butt.
This post was edited on 6/21 at 8:53 am


Landmass
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
The only reason that I want to keep the flag now is to say to the SEC.



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Rebel Land Shark
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
C-USA just said the same thing for Southern Miss


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Toddy
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
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tigersnatch69


I can assure you if the name "Rebels" or "Ole Miss" goes you can kiss university goodbye. I'm absolutely confident there will be enough alumni abandon the school that will be hardly any season tickets sold save corporate donors. They cannot even get above 30,000 now with Kiffin's inaugural season. And there has been not an insignificant amount, so far, of cancellations because of the statue controversy. I've spoken with enough alums who are still faithful that are on the verge of cutting all ties. Hell, more than a few I know from Mississippi have persuaded their current college-age kids to go elsewhere.


TOFTR
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
If you’re cancelling your football tickets purely because a monument meant to honor the Confederate dead is being moved to the part of campus where there are actual Confederate dead, you can get fricked


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Henry Jones Jr
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
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If you’re cancelling your football tickets purely because a monument meant to honor the Confederate dead is being moved to the part of campus where there are actual Confederate dead, you can get fricked
I think the flag needs to be changed and the statue being moved doesn't bother me. That being said, this type of attitude is why boosters aren't buying tickets or spending money at the university. You can't completely ignore your big money donors, tell them "if you don't like it, frick off" and be shocked when they aren't sending checks.

If/when the name Ole Miss is dropped, you will see massive donation drops and I would be willing to bet some of those donors start giving to State and a few other rivals.
This post was edited on 6/23 at 12:14 pm


TOFTR
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
It’s more that it was clearly never about history and honoring heritage if you’re cancelling because the statue is getting moved to the cemetery. How is there any more appropriate place on campus?


RebelVol
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
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If you’re cancelling your football tickets purely because a monument meant to honor the Confederate dead is being moved
I don’t think that’s solely the reason lol. You can say whatever you want about it, but the fact is that in the last ~25 years our school has gone through more change than most schools have in half a century. Donors lose flags (not a problem for me, it was before I was born/old enough to remember), lose the official mascot, lose one of the best sounding songs in the country, and now rumors are flying that they’ll lose both the university nickname and mascot name.

Most people don’t give a damn about the statue, on either side. It’s just a few choosing to be upset about it being on display and a few being upset about it being moved. Should it be front and center on the circle? No.
Should we have a dedicated place on campus for preserving our history and educating further generations on both our past and our rise from that past? Yes. Which is why moving it to the cemetery seems like a good idea, until certain people inevitably come for that as well.

Back to my original point: people aren’t all that upset about the statue being moved, most *seem to* feel like the statue being moved means everything else gets taken away as well


DMagic
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
This is exactly what will happen and is happening. There are so many younger adults that are our age that will never come back. Many of my friends have too much on their plate with kids and jobs to deal with this BS on a Saturday to watch us lose again. I certainly empathize as it gets harder to justify spending the money.


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Henry Jones Jr
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
Some people feel like the school is saying they're ashamed of their past (which it should be) and that includes it's former students. Right or wrong, that's how some people feel.

I'm for moving it to the cemetery. The one thing that did irritate me was the ASB president complained that the university was going to landscape and beautify the area by the cemetery.


TOFTR
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
The cemetery is a place of memory and reflection. I’m not for turning it into an attraction, but those on the other side up in arms over the dead finally receiving headstones paid for privately can likewise frick off


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256Rebel
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
The decision regarding the battle flag never really bothered me. I wasn't particularly happy with losing Colonel Reb, but it was more how it was handled. I still don't fully understand dropping FDWL. I'm with HJJ about the statute ... move it to the cemetery. It won't absolutely kill me if we have to change away from Rebels, though I would be far from happy about it.

But, Ole Miss? No. As I said on another site, I've never associated the name with racism. Rather, I remember how I felt as a child when Ole Miss crushed Tennessee after the "mules" comment. I must have played the Archie Who record a thousand times. I associate 'Ole Miss' with my love of the University and my home state. We need to do a better job of getting others to recognize the progress Ole Miss has made in the last 30-40 years rather than drop the name.


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Oxford Ways
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
The video of Leach pulling Kiffin’s mask at the state capital is actually really funny


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OMLandshark
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
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In my opinion, if we want our athletic dept to be relevant and be a respected university then we need to strongly consider changing the name in light of the oncoming criticism.


frick that. I’m for changing the flag, but the university was likely named for the Mississippi River, not the woman who oversaw the plantation house. It’s mentioned here in National Lampoon’s Vacation 40 years ago: YouTube


Ole Colonel 27
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re: So per SEC, Mississippi has to change its flag or else
Yea it was not the plantation owners wife. It is literally old Mississippi.


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