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OXFORD EXXON PODCAST 5-31-18

Posted on 5/31/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 2:15 pm
Neal & Jeffery seem like they think Luke is doing a really good job and that he will make some changes to the staff after this year. "he get's an A maybe even an A+" They unanimously think McGriff is gone after this year and probably/maybe Longo too. Neal said Freeze would have probably gone 4-8 this year. I usually respect what Neal has to say but Jeffrey is the most obnoxious person I've ever listened to on a podcast.

What direction would yall want to go if we made changes and any names you think we could get?


They really don't like Freeze
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30162 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 2:37 pm to
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What direction would yall want to go if we made changes and any names you think we could get?


Fire Luke, Vitter, & Bjork and hire an actual coach, for 3-4 fricking million I don't care if we are bowl banned we can get someone better than Luke
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10578 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 5:22 pm to
Then they are idiots. Luke is a mediocre line coach who is in over his head. I also doubt any quality assistants are going to come to Ole Miss knowing Luke probably won't make it beyond a few years.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 5:44 pm to
That’s what I want too but it doesn’t look like that’s what’s gunna happen. Maybe he can be like a les miles. I can’t just turn off my love for ole miss football and hope we lose so we get a real coach.
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1019 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 6:44 pm to
You don't have to hope that we lose. It's inevitable. Once the 2016 class bolts (the sole reason that last year's team went 6-6) and unless something changes with the 2019 recruiting class; we will lose, alot.
Posted by Dave1999
Member since Apr 2016
289 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:26 pm to
I think the praise for Luke was strictly based on keeping the team somewhat focused.
Of course the assistants are on the hot seat, they were Freeze’s guys and will take
the fall before Luke. I actually think Longo’s offense looked a hell of a lot better
with Ta’amu instead of Patterson . Defensively, can we be any worse ?
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:40 pm to
Longo will probably be a mid-major HC soon.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68469 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:21 pm to
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Neal said Freeze would have probably gone 4-8 this year.
This past year? Then he's a fricking moron and so is anyone who remotely puts any weight to the shite he spews. With Freeze, we handle Cal and Arkansas. Maybe even pull off one more win somewhere
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16950 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:41 pm to
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With Freeze, we handle Cal and Arkansas




Not sure about that.

Freeze lost to Arkansas a couple times with vastly superior talent.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:31 am to
He said the players hated Freeze and wouldn’t of played for him. I thought it was hyperbolic myself.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:32 am to
Maybe he’ll come back to us.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:33 am to
I don’t think it’s going to be that bad he’s gunna float around .500 and will be your coach for a very long 5 years.
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1019 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:00 am to
As long as we don't lose the partyyyy, right? Woo.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:10 am to
What’s really sad is our program isn’t even close to how bad it was in 2012 and yet I’m not nearly as optimistic.
Posted by TMRebel
Oxford, MS
Member since Feb 2013
5398 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:16 am to
Yeah, I think that's a line floated by every beat writer of every team after they fire a coach. I think Freeze would've done no better than Luke last season however. This is the man that lost to Memphis with a much better team.
Posted by TSUNRebel
DeSoto County
Member since May 2014
560 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:40 am to
Lets be honest. Freeze didn't have it all figured out either. He did grow from year to year and improved the program to a point.

As far as ole Miss becoming a top tier football team in the sec, what most are unwilling to admit is this. the NCAA will come calling every time Ole Miss appears to be getting close to rattling the big boys' cages.

There is an unspoken hierarchy in the SEC. It's dominated by the schools with the most financial clout. Alabama runs the SEC and the rest of the member schools are supposed to do as they are told.

If any school is going to be able to upset the apple cart it will be aTm. but aTm isn't an upstart. They have plenty of deep pockets and will be under close observation by the sec office. Don't be surprised by an NCAA investigation at aTm directed at the program under the previous coach, they will turn up some dirt on aTm and have them slapped back down to reality.


Alabama, Florida, Auburn and LSU. Georgia is making a push and does have some money, but aTm is the one that will be pushing the main offices buttons by 2019.

LSU has some fiscal issues to address and Tennessee is still paying for Fulmer's actions in the past.

Mullen has been kissing the SEC office's arse and sucking the NCAA's dick for so long, he may have leveraged some immunity, but he is now having to recruit in Florida with upstarts USF, UCF, and that little school where Kiffen is coaching. Plus he has to deal with FSU and Miami. So what seemed to be a great job 10 years ago, now has changed into a neighborhood backyard brawl in recruiting. It won't matter if they can match benefits if Mullen isn't well liked by the student athletes he is recruiting.

As far as Luke is concerned, the head coach is the CEO. The head coach just has to be smart enough to hire and surround himself with great assets. He also has to be well liked by those donors that matter and it doesn't hurt that he believes in what he is selling to recruits...that Ole Miss is a great school and that's why he loves it.

Did anyone see Coach Luke and the family in the stands in Hoover? Don't hate the man for loving Ole Miss. He's living his dream.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68469 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:41 am to
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He said the players hated Freeze and wouldn’t of played for him
He's a moron then. The players loved Freeze and it was pretty obvious by the results we got on the field and in recruiting. Every beat writer says that stupid line any time a coach is fired
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:10 pm to
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He did grow from year to year and improved the program to a point.


He took the program to places we haven't seen in 50 years.

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Tennessee is still paying for Fulmer's actions in the past.


Fulmer's actions? I live in TN everyone knows they pushed him out too soon and have paid for it ever since.


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Plus he has to deal with FSU and Miami. So what seemed to be a great job 10 years ago, now has changed into a neighborhood backyard brawl in recruiting. It won't matter if they can match benefits if Mullen isn't well liked by the student athletes he is recruiting.



Dude being the third best school in Florida you could still field a great team with only Florida players.


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As far as Luke is concerned, the head coach is the CEO. The head coach just has to be smart enough to hire and surround himself with great assets. He also has to be well liked by those donors that matter and it doesn't hurt that he believes in what he is selling to recruits...that Ole Miss is a great school and that's why he loves it.



I agree completely but he loves Ole Miss because he grew up around it not just because "its a great school"
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27189 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:30 pm to
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He's a moron then. The players loved Freeze and it was pretty obvious by the results we got on the field and in recruiting. Every beat writer says that stupid line any time a coach is fired


Were you alive during the last half of the 2016 season?
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30162 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:36 pm to
They love a coach who got beat by a shite Cal and Arkansas team as well as got annihilated by Bama and Auburn so apparently they can love anyone
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