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Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:35 pm to WithaRebelYell
Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:35 pm to WithaRebelYell
Soooo, I sure hope so. I hope he can, the team can, etc. Really not just about Luke.
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:59 am to WithaRebelYell
I’m not a Luke supporter, but I also know that whenever we as a fan base determine well before the first game kicks off that the program can’t win 6 games, we fire the coach 2/3 through the season but still let him finish out coaching the season because we have no pride
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:11 pm to WithaRebelYell
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Soooo Luke supporters can he win 6 games in 19?
Not especially pro or anti Luke, but let's not go crazy here. In 2019, we have Cal at home as our most difficult out of conference game (4 wins). We have Vandy (5 wins). Arkansas has recruited worse than us and they're bad now plus State will have lost Fitz (1 of those two is six).
We'll probably have Tennessee from the East who is rebuilding. Frankly, we could be pretty bad and win 6 maybe even 7.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:47 pm to RebTheodoreLogan
I don't know Luke. I don't know anybody that knows Luke. What I do know is he is our coach for now and a fan can feel anyway he pleases, but some are obviously burning a lot of anger energy over what they deem to be a bad situation before the first snap. If just one of our strongest naysayers could offer up proof from a few players that he and his staff don't know what they are doing that would be one thing. However, to my knowledge, I haven't seen, heard or read anything of the sorts as of yet. Yeah, yeah, I know we blew a big lead to Arkansas, didn't finish off what was at the time a decent Cal team and we weren't ready for an on sides kick that ultimately didn't beat us. All things considered, I still need to see more than that before I'm willing to join a few others in throwing the whole team, the whole season and whatever else there is under the bus. He's now had one baptism by fire season, one complete off season and has a regular season coming up. After this, we should know much more.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:58 pm to Insideradvantage
quote:Also being beat by 60 by Alabama and being a complete joke on the recruiting trail.
Yeah, yeah, I know we blew a big lead to Arkansas, didn't finish off what was at the time a decent Cal team and we weren't ready for an on sides kick that ultimately didn't beat us
These are all proof and you can't just shrug them off like they aren't proof. They are. He has no clue what he is doing
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:44 pm to Henry Jones Jr
You’re going to wind up giving yourself an aneurysm.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:13 pm to Shunface
I’m as disappointed in the Luke hire as anyone else here but I think that viewtpoint has already been discussed more than enough.
Do yall really wanna see Ross GTFO though? Dude has raised money at a clip the program has never seen before (granted, other schools are as well with the landscape of college football drastically changing) and his hands were clearly tied on the Luke hire. Doubling down on Freeze being a good ole baw of high moral character right before we found out he was calling hookers is the only thing that during Bjork’s tenure that has really irriatted me. Maybe I’m wrong but I think would end up kicking ourselves in the long run if we fired Bjork.
Do yall really wanna see Ross GTFO though? Dude has raised money at a clip the program has never seen before (granted, other schools are as well with the landscape of college football drastically changing) and his hands were clearly tied on the Luke hire. Doubling down on Freeze being a good ole baw of high moral character right before we found out he was calling hookers is the only thing that during Bjork’s tenure that has really irriatted me. Maybe I’m wrong but I think would end up kicking ourselves in the long run if we fired Bjork.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:11 pm to Dumpster
You're saying that Bjork knew about the hookers?
Then Ross can also hit the damn road.
Then Ross can also hit the damn road.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:01 am to matthew25
Not at all, I just think it was stupid to go all out on supporting his “moral character” with eveything clearly falling apart with the NCAA and people digging for dirt on us. The hookers thing itself was unforseeable but he had to have known something negative about Freeze in general would get dug up, reltated to the football team cheating or about his personal life.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 7:09 am
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:44 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Also being beat by 60 by Alabama and being a complete joke on the recruiting trail.
The only way that I can be forgiving on this subject is that Ole Miss is a real tough sell currently, even to in-state kids.
Most highly-rated in-state kids are being poached by Alabama and Auburn, both teams which were in play for a NC last season, and one team that is always in the playoffs.
The kids who are more loyal to their home state are a toss-up between two programs, one which has suffered a media/NCAA beatdown and a ho-hum sorta year and another that hasn't.
What exactly do you say to these kids to convince them to come to Ole Miss?
"You'll start immediately." ?
Sure, but these kids are naive enough to think that they'll start immediately wherever they go, Alabamas, Georgias, and Auburns included.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:59 am to Blaeke
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The only way that I can be forgiving on this subject is that Ole Miss is a real tough sell currently, even to in-state kids.
I rarely speak up, but I feel I must respond to this comment because I've seen it, or a version of it, repeated multiple times in multiple places.
Why? Why is Ole Miss a harder sell than normal? Because of the FNCAA sanctions? Okay, we lost a few scholarships and some former staff got sanctioned. So? How will that impact those we are recruiting now? Before you start screaming about the bowl ban, not one single young man that is currently being recruited will be effected by the bowl ban. Not one. The ban will be over before any of them are on campus.
As far as I can see, all that leaves is "other schools and the FNCAA are saying bad things about Ole Miss." I hate to break it to you, but others have said "bad things" about Ole Miss for literally decades. I fail to see how that makes Ole Miss a harder sell than usual.
So, with all due respect, will someone please explain to me why we should be forgiving for lackluster recruiting. Like our friend Henry Jones, Jr., I do not accept mediocrity. I, as an Ole Miss alum and lifelong fan, want more for our University. I want more from someone to whom we have entrusted our program and to whom we are paying millions of dollars. Yes, Matt Luke loves Ole Miss. Well, so do I and so do many, if not all, of you. Does that qualify any of us to coach a P5 program in the premier conference in the nation? No. As far as I am concerned, Coach Luke is on an extremely short leash. Another embarrassment like last year's Alabama game, or stupid decisions that give away wins (see the Cal and Arkansas games last year) should trigger a new coaching search. That completes my rant (for the moment). We return you to your regularly-scheduled programming.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:12 pm to 256Rebel
I’ve come to Luke’s defense, you might say, several times. That said, I agree with the short leash thing completely. There’s a difference though between having somebody on a short leash but also not supporting them at all while they are on that leash.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:54 pm to Insideradvantage
This.
Short leash but support him and the team while he’s our Coach.
Short leash but support him and the team while he’s our Coach.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 1:06 pm to Shunface
Let's face it. Ole Miss is mired in mediocrity.
It is no way the result of nepotism and incompetence.
It's simply a natural occurrence.
In a world of chaos and unpredictability, sometimes the dice happens to roll snake eyes one thousand times in a row, and we can't help that; so why fight it?
It's better to just control the things which we can, like the party.
It is no way the result of nepotism and incompetence.
It's simply a natural occurrence.
In a world of chaos and unpredictability, sometimes the dice happens to roll snake eyes one thousand times in a row, and we can't help that; so why fight it?
It's better to just control the things which we can, like the party.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 1:43 pm to Blaeke
If your reply is directed at my comment about supporting the team and coach, while he’s the coach, perpetuating the continued mediocrity of the team, I don’t get it.
I would absolutely love a splash hire and we’ll do that for the next hire. For now Luke is the coach. This will be his first true year as the coach with limited chaos during the off-season this time. You have to be on board enough to see what he can do.
Now my personal take would be if he doesn’t win six games he should clearly be gone. Seven, depending on the wins and how the losses played could buy him another year.
I would absolutely love a splash hire and we’ll do that for the next hire. For now Luke is the coach. This will be his first true year as the coach with limited chaos during the off-season this time. You have to be on board enough to see what he can do.
Now my personal take would be if he doesn’t win six games he should clearly be gone. Seven, depending on the wins and how the losses played could buy him another year.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:07 pm to Insideradvantage
That is true. It is also true that saying keep him on a short leash is not the same as saying there is no support for the coach and/or the team. I will always support the team, no matter the coach and no matter how short or long his leash.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:19 am to 256Rebel
Luke is a 2018 David Cutcliffe. He'll be average at OM. For some in this fanbase it's all they want. A bowl game and an occasional 9 win season every 3 or 4 years. I dont care about a splash hire. I dont care about a name. What I do care about is a coach that can win big. There isnt a single OM fan including Luke that believes he has the ability to win big.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 7:26 pm to Doresrules
Does anybody really think we could have made a splash hire with the bowl ban
and recruiting limitations ?Maybe if we had emptied the vault, maybe. Tennessee
couldn’t land a decent coach and they can offer more.
I look for Luke to be gone in 2 seasons unless he surprises to the upside. At the point we write a huge check and keep our fingers crossed.
and recruiting limitations ?Maybe if we had emptied the vault, maybe. Tennessee
couldn’t land a decent coach and they can offer more.
I look for Luke to be gone in 2 seasons unless he surprises to the upside. At the point we write a huge check and keep our fingers crossed.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:25 pm to BoulderReb
Boulder is a great town, very weird very liberal.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:26 pm to Landmass
Orgeron is LSU's coach...
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