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re: Why have the fatalities from the delta variant not increased?

Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:35 am to
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:35 am to
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But yeah you aren't far off, almost the entire population of the US.


I donate platelets and plasma every 2/3 weeks. I assure you the antibody positive percentage is nowhere near that level, even including the vaccinated crowd. AB+ universal donor, so they've really been pushing me to get the virus or jab.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 2:54 pm to
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I donate platelets and plasma every 2/3 weeks. I assure you the antibody positive percentage is nowhere near that level, even including the vaccinated crowd. AB+ universal donor, so they've really been pushing me to get the virus or jab.


We'll see with this wave I guess. The numbers can vary from region to region, but shouldn't be too far off.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19834 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:07 pm to
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The numbers can vary from region to region, but shouldn't be too far off.

How much can they vary by region if you're saying ~318.3 million out of 328.2 million people have caught it? Your theory requires that ~96.7% of America has had it already. It doesn't pass the math smell test one bit.

I promise I'm basically on your side, but your figures aren't adding up at all to me.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:16 pm to
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How much can they vary by region if you're saying ~318.3 million out of 328.2 million people have caught it? Your theory requires that ~96.7% of America has had it already. It doesn't pass the math smell test one bit.

I promise I'm basically on your side, but your figures aren't adding up at all to me.


It's not my figure, I read it in a study. But it wasn't exactly .2, it was .2something.

The IFR can also vary by area a good bit, I'm not sure how much. So it's possible the US could be higher, I'm not really sure what the IFR is specifically for the US. There are so many factors with age, exiting conditions, which specific strains are dominate in that area etc.

Hell I guess it would make sense for the US to be above average with all our comorbidities now that I've typed that out.

But in overall numbers, small changes to the % equals big numbers of the population. If you go from .2% to .3%, that's another 350k deaths in the US if you count total population, and would also require a good bit less of the population to have it.

And it's always changing, so just kind of waiting and seeing. I'd all but quit looking at the topic until this recent wave hit.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 6:18 pm
Posted by WRhodesTider
Birmingham, Al
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:58 am to
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I donate platelets and plasma every 2/3 weeks.


Where do you donate? I go to the local Red Cross donor center here in Birmingham and they hound the hell out of me. I can give and they'll give a break of about a week before they start calling me again. I try to give once a month.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19834 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:49 pm to
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Where do you donate?

Oneblood, it used to be the florida/georgia blood alliance. I live in the sticks, so the only red cross location is an additional 20 minutes on top of my already 45 minute ride lol.
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I can give and they'll give a break of about a week before they start calling me again. I try to give once a month.

Glad to hear it's not just me getting the frequent reminders. to you for also being a donor.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Meanwhile, back on June 22, the 7-day average for new fatalities was 303 per day. Fatalities continued to fall all the way through July 5th when they reached 215. They have risen a bit since then, but they still stand at just
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250
per day as of yesterday.



Here is an update for data through yesterday, August 12th. 7-day average through August 12th is 537 deaths. So, that is a 115% increase over when you posted this 3 weeks (21 days) ago.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30735 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:42 pm to
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Here is an update for data through yesterday, August 12th. 7-day average through August 12th is 537 deaths. So, that is a 115% increase over when you posted this 3 weeks (21 days) ago.


Yep they've started to kick in a little with the higher number of cases.

Luckily it's still only about half the deaths as previously with similiar case numbers. Hopefully that keeps up.

Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:03 am to
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Here is an update for data through yesterday, August 12th. 7-day average through August 12th is 537 deaths. So, that is a 115% increase over when you posted this 3 weeks (21 days) ago.


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Yep they've started to kick in a little with the higher number of cases.

Luckily it's still only about half the deaths as previously with similiar case numbers. Hopefully that keeps up.



The demographic for positive cases is much younger than earlier cases, which should significantly improve both hospitalization and morbidity rates.
Posted by GreyReb
Member since Jun 2010
4356 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:21 pm to
Got to be a shite ton of cases of Covid out there never reported…I think I may have had it at least once and never tested positive
Posted by exiledhogfan
Missouri
Member since Jul 2021
1276 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 7:24 pm to
The answer is this: Delta is affecting younger people, stronger people, people who live for weeks/months on a ventilator.

Old people die quickly once they go on a vent. Young folks don't.

That's the answer from the doctors/nurses/hospital folks I have interviewed in recent weeks.

Believe it or don't. No skin off my nose.
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