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Weight loss surgery?

Posted on 7/5/17 at 9:17 pm
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 9:17 pm
Has anyone tried it? Gastric bypass? Lap band? Sleeve? Doc recommended drastic weight loss but my lower back is shot.

Posted by Bama Shadow
Member since Jan 2009
574 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 9:43 pm to
The thing is, even with the surgery you have to make big changes to your diet. I know two women, one had lap band, one gastric bypass. Both gained all their weight back plus some eventually.

I know how hard it is, after two fusions in my lower back I had to quit work and go on disability. I've always been a big guy and have gained probably 30lbs since quitting work 5 years ago. Hard to lose any when you can't be active due to the pain. Good luck in whatever you choose, it's a tough row for anyone.
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:27 am to
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Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
98920 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 5:56 am to
You're likely going to have to show you can lose the weight naturally beforehand. Unless, as said, it's due to a condition that means the weight needs to come off ASAP.

Everyone I know who has had gastric bypass has had complications from it. All but one have had their gallbladder removed. I'd look into low impact exercise if you have issues with your back. You can still lose it naturally with that and changing your diet.
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:54 am to
Recumbant bike
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Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118943 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:12 am to
As others have said, try to lose weight yourself first. Find low impact exercise that doesn't hurt you, maybe a recumbent or spinner bike. You will be amazed how much weight you can lose by simple lifestyle changes, especially if you are well overweight.

I would do that before considering surgery.
Posted by AirDawg
The Great State of Calm
Member since Feb 2013
2015 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:42 am to
You may think about joining the "Y" and begin swimming laps. I injured my knee, ankle, and lower back among other things while in the military and swimming has allowed me to exercise without the pain of constant impact type exercises.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:20 am to
I know a handful of women who have had them. 2 of them became very attractive. None of them have gained it back, and it's been at least 3 years for all of them. Don't know which particular surgery for any of them.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:42 am to
My aunt had lap band surgery. It has worked, but it made her more sensitive to certain foods, mostly fried food. It hasn't been a big deal for her because she made diet changes as well. I know she had some initial problems with acid reflux, but that subsided.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Has anyone tried it? Gastric bypass? Lap band? Sleeve? Doc recommended drastic weight loss but my lower back is shot.


I would've probably asked my doctor about it instead of the OTB

But that's just me
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2072 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:45 am to
Watch the seminar at alabamawls.com. It's 10 minutes long but does a good job at explaining the different types. For most the gastric sleeve is probably the best option. You could still have to have the gall bladder removed, but of the different types of surgery it is probably the least invasive with the least complications.

I haven't had it, but am currently trying to get approved with insurance. If your insurance doesn't cover it, you'll pay about $12K. I know several people that have had it and most will tell you they wish they had it done a long time ago. I recommend using someone who has done tons of these surgeries just as I would do the same if you were having lasik or anything else.
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2072 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:48 am to
And another thing:

Do you like to drink beer and eat pizza or steak in big quantities? If so, that will likely be over after the surgery. This will be hard for me, but I have young kids and I want to be around.
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2072 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:51 am to
quote:

The thing is, even with the surgery you have to make big changes to your diet. I know two women, one had lap band, one gastric bypass. Both gained all their weight back plus some eventually.


These things do happen, but not typically if the person complies with the diet and lifestyle. It's very strict, but for many people, it can save their life.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73470 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:15 am to
You'll feel better if you can make changes to your lifestyle.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Do you like to drink beer and eat pizza or steak in big quantities? If so, that will likely be over after the surgery.


You get it. You'll succeed. Most people have a major problem seeing the connection between gluttony and their health.

quote:

I have young kids and I want to be around.


This is gold as motivation to achieve responsible eating. Good luck to you and the OP.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 5:14 pm to
Do some yoga and change your diet in the mean time. Here is a good video on calorie restriction and how hard it is (LINK

LINK Is your back as shot out as this guy?
Posted by pngtiger
Mobile
Member since May 2004
1819 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:56 pm to
Don't do the band, or the new mangnetic rings. It's a foreign body that can erode, and if it does, it's a major problem. Also, it's easy to "beat it" by drinking your calories, which many do. It takes adjustments regularly (first to get it just right, almost to obstruction, then more and more as/if you lose weight.) I've seen many of these say screw it, and move to something else. Another problem is it doesn't affect grelin levels (which is one of the hormones that regulates hunger) as well as other options. So, while you can't eat as much, you never feel full.

Next, try to stay away from gastric bypass. It makes your stomach smaller, and changes the "plumbing" of your small intestines. It is both a restrictive (eat less) as well as malabsorptive (don't digest and absorb as much). This leads to
1. Problems with many necessary nutrients, especially vitamins (requiring vitamin supplements, sometimes through the IV)
2. As someone stated above, gallbladder problems. 85% of the bile that is excreted is reabsorbed. This cycle gets messed up, which leads to gall stones, thus requiring another surgery
3. The way things are hooked up, if you eat carbs, and especially ones that empty quickly (liquid), you can get dumping syndrome (sweats, heart racing, diarrhea...)
4. It creates 3 potential spots for internal hernias. This can be as simple as requiring another surgery to fix the hernia, to as bad as killing part of your intestines.
5. Like the band, it can be beat by drinking your calories.

Gastric sleeve I think is the best option in the surgery department. It only cuts out part of your stomach to make it into the shape of a banana, so just restrictive. It can't be beat by drinking liquids because the pyloris is still there to regulate stomach outflow. It doesn't cause the problems with absorption and the gallbladder like gastric bypass. There's usually no dumping syndrome. And then if it doesn't work, they can do what's called a duodenal switch (again, rerouting the intestines). Over time, the stomach will stretch some though.

Both the above surgeries do affect grelin levels, leading to satiation. Both we see an almost immediate effect on diabetes and blood pressure (many go home no longer taking meds).

Average loss is about 30% of EXCESS boys weight. Many will regain a portion of that.
Your diet is going to change no matter which way you go. It'll be very low to no carbs (especially early on) and high protein.
Likewise, it will take complete lifestyle modification.
For both, it's either you do it before or after surgery (and many insurers require a diet/exercise trial for 6 months prior to surgery approval).

So the question becomes, if it's a lifestyle modification, why not just make the change and not go through the surgery? It can be done. It's all about calories in vs calories out. And the main component of that is calories in (like 75-90%). You can do the post-bariatric diet without ever having the suregery. And for exercise, if the problem is the back (or knees, ankles, etc), there are bikes and swimming. It takes time and commitment; you're looking at a year or more depending on how much weight you want to lose.

The America way is to look for the easy way out. Those that fail aren't willing to make the changes and sacrifices. I think you'll feel better about yourself (sense of accomplishment), and it'll be easier to keep the weight off if you do it all on your own. It can be done! I have many friends and colleagues that have done it this way.
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:02 am to
My younger sister had the gastric sleeve. She was paying out of pocket, and would have cost her about $20k here. She went to Mexico and got it done for $4200. She is a PA and said the hospital was the cleanest, with the most knowledgeable staff, that she has came across.
Down 75lbs so far.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10336 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:32 am to
I would try the balloon first. I have a buddy who did it. He swallowed a pill, and they inflated it with saline. Said it was like walking around after eating a full meal all the time. He had no desire to eat.

Basically the first month he had to make himself drink gatorade to keep from dehydrating. He lost 20# the first month and like 10# the second month. When they took it out after something like 6 months he had lost 40#. This has been a year and he hasn't gained it back. I think it cost him $5k and no surgery. If he had troubles with it they just deflate it.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15384 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:20 am to
Dude. Lost the weight yourself. No Sugar No Grains
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