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re: To what extent does your state fly/use the confederate flag?
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:20 pm to TheDude321
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:20 pm to TheDude321
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Dude, you're fighting a losing battle here. Yes, there is an older design that our state flag was "officially" based on in 1895, but even the most ardent supporters of our state flag acknowledge that its design was almost certainly defacto selected due to its strong resemblance to a certain other flag that was prominent in that era.
Let's see if you can back up your claim with evidence because I can certainly back up mine.
If you want to change it because it is based on a flag that was used by an Alabama unit that fought for the Confederacy even though it predates the war, fine because that's a true statement. Hell, they legislator that proposed the design was in the unit but saying it was designed to mimic the flag commonly called the Confederate flag is a blatant lie.
Here's the AG's opinion that lays out the flag's history related to the Alabama unit. I've already covered the flag's history during the Spanish period.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:35 pm to Numberwang
Growing up in Texas, three places I can think of.
Six Flags
redneck bumper stickers in east Texas.
Fightin' Freddy on the F-1 logo:
In Mississippi, obviously Ole Miss back in the day but that's about it. Other than, again, redneck pickups.
Six Flags
redneck bumper stickers in east Texas.
Fightin' Freddy on the F-1 logo:
In Mississippi, obviously Ole Miss back in the day but that's about it. Other than, again, redneck pickups.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:36 pm to Evolved Simian
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That "other flag" was almost completely unused in that era, so, no, you are dead wrong.
Everyone back then, as today, knows about the Confederate flag. Everyone. That isn't even debatable. A little known fact is that the first 20 years after Reconstruction the South actually kept the Reconstruction desegregation laws intact, probably to avoid pissing off the North enough to start a second Reconstruction (which the North wouldn't have done any way). A generation later, after the depression of the 1890s, the southern states started looking for scapegoats for the economic troubles, and Jim Crow laws were adopted. Alabama's current flag came out of that era.
But, yes--I think the point that I think you're getting at--is that a little known fact is that the Rebel flag itself didn't start flying over state houses again until the 1950s when the Civil Rights Movement kicked into gear. When people were claiming 15 years ago that they needed to keep flying the Rebel flag over South Carolina's capitol building because of 135 years of unbroken tradition, that isn't true--it was more like several decades.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:49 pm to Numberwang
In Colorado, hipsters like to roll joints using Confederate flag rolling papers in an attempt to be ironic. That's about the extent.
I'm sure a few militias in east Colorado fly it. But that's just hilarious considering they aren't from the south and there aren't any black people there.
I'm sure a few militias in east Colorado fly it. But that's just hilarious considering they aren't from the south and there aren't any black people there.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:30 pm to Numberwang
We Texans tend to fly the Texas flag.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:35 pm to finestfirst79
Which one are you in that pic
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:35 pm to Numberwang
Already know SC does.
Interestingly enough, Oklahoma flew it for a while. They, like Texas, flew flags of the countries that controlled the state. It was taken down in 1988.
ETA as it turns out in a weird twist of things, TWO Texas flags flew in Oklahoma.
Interestingly enough, Oklahoma flew it for a while. They, like Texas, flew flags of the countries that controlled the state. It was taken down in 1988.
ETA as it turns out in a weird twist of things, TWO Texas flags flew in Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:46 pm to Robert Goulet
quote:god, not been to that place in forever. Love the location tough, right next to biker rags!!
You been singing any karaoke at Bullfeathers?
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:46 pm to Carolina Tide
I have not seen any flag of the Confederacy flying on TN state property.
It is, of course, displayed at the Shiloh and Lookout Mountain battlefields. Which is a proper setting.
But I see it all the time flying on private property in front of body shops, barbecue stands, taverns, trailers and what not.
It is, of course, displayed at the Shiloh and Lookout Mountain battlefields. Which is a proper setting.
But I see it all the time flying on private property in front of body shops, barbecue stands, taverns, trailers and what not.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:15 pm to Agforlife
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Which one are you in that pic
fish year. Back row, 2nd from right. SafetySam is also in there.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:16 pm to Numberwang
I'm in Mississippi. Self explanatory.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:33 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Arkansas: all of your flags are symbols of the Confederacy. :themoreyouknowrainbowshootingstar:
Wow, that guy is really reaching for the Tennessee flag.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:34 pm to Numberwang
Since the Civil War, Kentucky has never officially flown the CSA battle flag nor allowed it on license plates.
Additionally, the statue of Jefferson Davis, who was a Kentuckian, will apparently be moved from the Capitol rotunda in Frankfort. It presently shares space with Abraham Lincoln, also a Kentuckian.
Additionally, the statue of Jefferson Davis, who was a Kentuckian, will apparently be moved from the Capitol rotunda in Frankfort. It presently shares space with Abraham Lincoln, also a Kentuckian.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:36 pm to PikeBishop
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I have not seen any flag of the Confederacy flying on TN state property. It is, of course, displayed at the Shiloh and Lookout Mountain battlefields. Which is a proper setting. But I see it all the time flying on private property in front of body shops, barbecue stands, taverns, trailers and what not.
Yeah, there are plenty at the Civil War sites. I know there's a bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest in the Capitol building. Also numerous statues all over the states, but I don't see a problem recognizing history.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:36 pm to BigOrangeBri
Well, it has stars and red, white, and blue so it has to be like the confederate flag. I can't think of any other flags like that.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:41 pm to Kentucker
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Since the Civil War, Kentucky has never officially flown the CSA battle flag nor allowed it on license plates.
I can't recall it being flown in an official capacity either.
As most know at this point, we have a statue of Jefferson Davis in our capital rotunda who in this whole knee jerk reaction will inevitably be moved to the museum there.
The local NAACP chapter is also petitioning to remove the Confederate Memorial near UofL.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:44 pm to Robert Goulet
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Well, it has stars and red, white, and blue so it has to be like the confederate flag. I can't think of any other flags like that.
I can think of one that represents a country that systematically exterminated a race of people and forced the remainder of those people onto reservations. The same country that put anyone that looked Asian in internment camps during WWII.
Maybe we should outlaw it
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:59 pm to BigOrangeBri
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I can think of one that represents a country that systematically exterminated a race of people and forced the remainder of those people onto reservations. The same country that put anyone that looked Asian in internment camps during WWII.
That's the America I know and love. Our forefathers did a lot of shitty stuff for us to be able to have the luxuries we do today and then turn around and bitch about them.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 7:06 pm to Robert Goulet
Hold on, hold on. We can only have one flag to overreact to and be offended by at a time.
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