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That you can kill your own baby and get away with murder is well known...
Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:25 am
...but when the hell did we allow you to kill someone else's?
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Apparently 12 states allow this shite? Holy frick! Debates about religion and conception aside, that's killing someone that at least one person wants to see live and grow, and that alone should be enough to warrant a charge that can receive the death penalty.
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Apparently 12 states allow this shite? Holy frick! Debates about religion and conception aside, that's killing someone that at least one person wants to see live and grow, and that alone should be enough to warrant a charge that can receive the death penalty.
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:31 am to PrivatePublic
This world is a fricked up place.
Defenseless babies are cut up by scalpels and sucked out with vacuum cleaners every minute of every day.....
Defenseless babies are cut up by scalpels and sucked out with vacuum cleaners every minute of every day.....
Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:31 am to PrivatePublic
Gotta be consistent in your support of baby murder.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 12:23 pm to Old Sarge
That's the ugly truth that some don't care to face, and it sickens me to my core.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 12:28 pm to PrivatePublic
I mean, if you're going to allow abortion then you have to be consistent. You can't in good conscience charge someone with murder if aborting the same fetus is legal.
If it's any consolation she's still gonna get like 150 years in prison.
If it's any consolation she's still gonna get like 150 years in prison.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 12:29 pm to PrivatePublic
Nvm I can't
Posted on 3/28/15 at 12:45 pm to Agforlife
This law makes absolutely no sense as it is presented in this article. Of course a fetus, body, dead baby - anything - will show no signs if life in front of a coroner.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:02 pm to wmr
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Gotta be consistent in your support of baby murder.
Well, on the flip-side, if you define life as beginning at conception, pregnant women could be brought up on involuntary manslaughter charges for things as simple as falling while climbing the stairs.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:09 pm to AUbagman
Sure they couldn't.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:42 pm to the808bass
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Sure they couldn't.
You don't believe so? Let's say an elevator was available, and the pregnant woman takes the stairs. That's an undue risk, no? I mean there are many, many situations that could arise, that's just one example.
ETA: I'm not speaking in terms of the morality of abortion, just the legal definition of when life begins. Defining life as beginning at conception creates a whole separate area of legal grey area.
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:50 pm to AUbagman
that's a pretty horrible analogy.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:05 pm to AUbagman
That is positively preposterous.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:34 pm to AUbagman
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You don't believe so? Let's say an elevator was available, and the pregnant woman takes the stairs. That's an undue risk, no? I mean there are many, many situations that could arise, that's just one example.
What particular liberal arts degree do you posses (or are you currently working on)?
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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That is positively preposterous.
How so?
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:51 pm to the808bass
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What particular liberal arts degree do you posses (or are you currently working on)?
As if even more prosperous charges haven't haven't been brought up by overzealous DAs. It would be a slippery slope in terms of legal definitions. Some are just too obtuse/biased to see it in that scope.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:52 pm to AUbagman
That is so dumb. Just abandon this idea. Walk away. Live to fight another day.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:53 pm to AUbagman
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How so?
Nice shiny hook. I'll bite.
Taking the stairs versus taking the elevator is a normal life decision that generally carries no risk for either the mother or the unborn child, and no criminal intent.
Cutting a baby from someone is not a normal life decision that does carry criminal intent. And just to clarify, so does drinking, doing drugs, and smoking when you're pregnant-and mothers who do this should also be punished, IMO.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:58 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Taking the stairs versus taking the elevator is a normal life decision that generally carries no risk for either the mother or the unborn child, and no criminal intent.
I'm not comparing the two as similar, nor did I say something as preposterous as taking the stairs would imply intent - hence why I stated involuntary manslaughter.
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Elements of the Offense
Three elements must be satisfied in order for someone to be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter:
Someone was killed as a result of act by the defendant.
The act either was inherently dangerous to others or done with reckless disregard for human life.
The defendant knew or should have known his or her conduct was a threat to the lives of others.
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And just to clarify, so does drinking, doing drugs, and smoking when you're pregnant-and mothers who do this should also be punished, IMO.
And they would be if life is legally defined as beginning at conception.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:59 pm to AUbagman
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hence why I stated involuntary manslaughter
SIGH
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