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re: Sensible arguments for gun control
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:07 am to The Spleen
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:07 am to The Spleen
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My whole argument has been NEITHER side is capable of having a sensible argument on the topic.
"Our side can, the other side can't."
Alahunter doesn't see the blatant contradiction in that statement.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:07 am to BarberitosDawg
Guns are the new abortion debate.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:08 am to cokebottleag
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Hammers kill more people than guns every year.
So, we're just making shite up now?
Leave it to the Texan to be a lying sack of shite when someone questions his need for 1,103,908,342,354,328 guns to compensate for his >2 inch dick.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:08 am to PrivatePublic
Gun control will never work in this country.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:09 am to Rebelgator
You just said his dick was greater than 2 inches. I think that's unlikely.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:10 am to Duke
throwing guns down stairs could end badly
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:11 am to The Spleen
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My whole argument has been NEITHER side is capable of having a sensible argument on the topic
Yet, here am I attempting to, and you've taken the position that there are sensible reasons FOR it, but cannot or refuse to engage in sensible debate.
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The extremes on both sides of the argument have become the dominant voices in the debate, and the sensible ones in the middle have been pushed to the side.
Or they refuse to engage, as you have and continue to blame extreme positions on the other side.
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I used the Executive Orders as an example of what I thought was sensible debate from the gun control side, and used the example of them being so quickly dismissed by the pro-gun crowd to show how unreasonable that side can be
And I posted why the majority of them were unreasonable. For which you didn't wish to debate or acknowledge. Only repeat they are sensible. When they are not.
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I think BOTH sides have provided reasonable arguments, but those arguments are drowned out by the extremists on BOTH sides.
I don't. I think one side bases their entire position on emotional responses. They do nothing to curb the violence. Their ONLY response is to infringe on gun owners' rights. While gun owners have organization after organization, that spends their money teaching safety, providing safety devices and includes volunteers giving safety classes.
One side clearly is rational in the debate and does real, actual works in creating safe use of firearms and works to increase safety. The other does no such thing. Spending tens of millions of dollars more to infringe and strip Constitutional Rights.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:11 am to Stonehog
quote:That's true. It's a self confession about how far up his own arse his head is.
"Our side can, the other side can't." Alahunter doesn't see the blatant contradiction in that statement.
But all these word play arguments are a waste of time.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:13 am to MIZ_COU
Someone is getting emotional.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:16 am to Rebelgator
RG, are you pro more gun control, or are you just stirring the pot?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:16 am to MIZ_COU
I find it funny that spleen considers himself reasonable and not to the extreme when debating gun control. He is reasonable in other positions but thinking exec. orders are reasonable places him in the extremist camp when talking gun control.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:20 am to Alahunter
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Yet, here am I attempting to,
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One side clearly is rational in the debate and does real, actual works in creating safe use of firearms and works to increase safety. The other does no such thing
Okay.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:21 am to heartbreakTiger
Serious question: where do you people live who are so terrified of having to protect yourselves against violent criminals? I'm assuming that since people are quoting Chicago crime stats that those in favor of zero restrictions to gun ownership live in high density, impoverished, urban areas. Just seems strange, though, to have all these northern city-dwellers on an SEC message board.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:22 am to UMTigerRebel
I don't like guns for the most part.
Especially shite like this.
I don't care that it's not full auto. There is no fricking purpose behind that other than to kill people.
I do own one of these though. It's sole purpose is killing ducks. That's what it was made for.
Especially shite like this.
I don't care that it's not full auto. There is no fricking purpose behind that other than to kill people.
I do own one of these though. It's sole purpose is killing ducks. That's what it was made for.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:24 am to Alahunter
quote:Actually I'm not, it's just the only way anybody wants to engage. There is much real debate going on from either side in this thread, and yet you blame it all on one side.
Someone is getting emotional.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:25 am to Rebelgator
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. There is no fricking purpose behind that other than to kill people.
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t's sole purpose is killing ducks. That's what it was made for.
Your sole purposes maybe. This is the problem. People have preconceived incorrect notions and cant see outside of it
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:25 am to WheelRoute
It isn't about fear, it is about freedom.
Where are you going in such a hurry that you need to drive more than the posted speed limit. Or do you support a governor on all cars that limits speed to 75mph no matter what.
Where are you going in such a hurry that you need to drive more than the posted speed limit. Or do you support a governor on all cars that limits speed to 75mph no matter what.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:26 am to WheelRoute
well I live in Baton Rouge so protection is needed at all times. I would still carry a knife even if I lived in the safest city in the world. I believe in being able to provide protection for myself if need be. I would rather be prepared for the very slight chance something were to happen then not prepared. I also have a issue with the government limiting freedoms. I don't think it is a good idea to limit gun ownership to military and police. Have we not seen enough police acting out videos? You want them to be the only people that can save you from a criminal? Also as I said earlier I don't think over regulation is the way to solve problems, regulation usually hurts the honest people. The ones legislation is aimed at will find other ways around it or it causes a problem that wasn't intended.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:28 am to NYCAuburn
Show me the last mass murder with a duck gun. I'll wait.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:28 am to CheeseburgerEddie
quote:See that's a platitude that has nothing to do with real debate. You could just as easily use that argument for the elimination of all speed limits
It isn't about fear, it is about freedom.
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