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re: Sensible arguments for gun control
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:14 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:14 pm to The Spleen
As much as you'd like to demonize the NRA, they spend a fraction of what gun control people spend on lobbying.
Things get voted down, because constituents want them voted down. Look to Colorado after they passed gun control measures on the State level this past year. They ended up with 2 recalled politicians and one forced to retire after a swell of opposition.
Blaming the "big, bad NRA", doesn't lend itself to sensible discussion.
Things get voted down, because constituents want them voted down. Look to Colorado after they passed gun control measures on the State level this past year. They ended up with 2 recalled politicians and one forced to retire after a swell of opposition.
Blaming the "big, bad NRA", doesn't lend itself to sensible discussion.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:19 pm to The Spleen
You do realize that it wasn't only the NRA? Many red state democrat senators received thousands of calls from constituents who were against gun control. Funny how those up for re election in red states or swing states voted no
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:35 pm to Alahunter
Gun control is political suicide unless you're in the northeast, Cali, or Illinois
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:51 pm to Rebelgator
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There's not a single area in this town I'm worried about being in after dark.
You ever been to Brooks Road? I work in the area, and I would not walk around here after dark if I could avoid it. Surely there are some parts of South or North Memphis you wouldn't walk around after dark (at least without carrying or some sign that you are LEO), if you're really being honest.
I was robbed at gunpoint for $2 downtown, but that was in the mid-90's and downtown has been cleaned up a lot since.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:08 pm to Alahunter
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Look to Colorado after they passed gun control measures on the State level this past year. They ended up with 2 recalled politicians and one forced to retire after a swell of opposition.
Those recalls were a great example that money is certainly important but it does not guarantee election success.
The opponents of the recall outspent those for it by about 6 to 1 and still got smacked at the polls.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:43 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Your odds of personally witnessing a home break in? 1/4.
I see we're still making shite up in this thread.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:47 pm to Alahunter
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Now think about that. That's nearly 68 thousand more crimes a year, without people being able to defend themselves.
If a gun was the only way to defend yourself, you would have a point.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:55 pm to heartbreakTiger
quote:That's kind of what I'm banking on right now. I don't have a gun and have no plans to get one.
so you would rather cower down in your home and hope the police arrive in time to save you vs actually defending yourself?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:58 pm to Alahunter
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They're also responsible for releasing more firearms to criminals, than any other organization or person in the U.S. while in office.
By funding the Mujahidin, Reagan basically started Al Qaeda.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:05 pm to Stonehog
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If a gun was the only way to defend yourself, you would have a point.
How do you, as a law abiding citizen, defend yourself from a criminal with a gun who chose to ignore gun control laws?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:07 pm to deltaland
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How do you, as a law abiding citizen, defend yourself from a criminal with a gun who chose to ignore gun control laws?
With good intentions, compassion and unicorn farts.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:10 pm to deltaland
Alahunter didn't say the criminal had a gun in those 68,000 crimes, just the homeowner.
I have an axe in case of a break in. But the chances of experiencing a home invasion are astronomical, Klarvin's 1/4 chance is complete horseshite.
I have an axe in case of a break in. But the chances of experiencing a home invasion are astronomical, Klarvin's 1/4 chance is complete horseshite.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:16 pm to Stonehog
Making shite up is a very important part of a reasoned debate. Have you learned nothing from this thread?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:39 pm to Stonehog
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By funding the Mujahidin, Reagan basically started Al Qaeda.
I'm talking more recent. Like the firearms that were used in mass killings in Mexico and that are turning up at crime scenes in several U.S. States now, and that was used to murder a Border Patrol Agent.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:29 am to AnthonyDaley
And some people have an overpowering need to resurrect dead threads.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:30 am to The Spleen
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the deep pockets of the NRA.
The NRA is faaar behind left wing gun control groups in their lobbying.
Their power comes from membership. You know, kind of like democracy.
You people who demonize the NRA know shite about them.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:25 am to WheelRoute
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WheelRoute
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Stonehog
Posted on 10/16/21 at 4:28 am to AnthonyDaley
Cold, dead hands, baw.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:50 pm to Weagle25
quote:Approximately 2/3 of that figure are suicides.
People use that "30,000 people die from Gun Violence every year" fact like that's a big number.
30,000/313 million = 0.0096%
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:35 am to heartbreakTiger
Liberals don’t care because they don’t live in areas with high gun violence. The people they trick into agreeing with their virtuous values live in those areas. Put a liberal in a high crime area and they’ll be begging for mercy before the end of the week.
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