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re: Ok, i've got a question for you "open carry" guys.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:06 am to Pandy Fackler
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:06 am to Pandy Fackler
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Do you think that's really the reason?
A big part of it for most, I'd reckon. We've all got a little bit of a troll side to us at thr end of the day
There's little tactical value to open carrying, therefore it's mostly for show/thumbing one's nose at those who support stricter gun measures. This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 11:07 am
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:21 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Do you think that's really the reason?
A big part of it for most, I'd reckon. We've all got a little bit of a troll side to us at thr end of the day
? There's little tactical value to open carrying, therefore it's mostly for show/thumbing one's nose at those who support stricter gun measures.
So they're making a social/political statement. Much in the same way gay guys will kiss in public. They don't have to do it but they sorta get their jollies sticking it in people's faces.
Two completely different sets of men who do shite publicly for no good reason at all.
I"m good with that I guess.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:36 am to Pandy Fackler
Yeah it's whatever. Hell, in an actual shooter situation, the first guy to get targeted is the open carry dweeb. I'm not putting that kind of target on my back
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:09 pm to Pandy Fackler
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So why do you think they openly carry a loaded pistol if there's no real danger or threat? What do you think the psychology is behind that?
Alcohol for instance often provides "liquid courage" and confidence for those who can't find it.
Does openly carrying a loaded gun equal 'steel courage"?
What's your opinion on why someone would openly carry a loaded pistol in their day to day lives when there's no meaningful threat?
There is no way to know what truly motivates the actions of others preemptively. You could ask that same question to concealed carriers. Perhaps they like to be prepared and don't wish to go through the concealed carry process? But how often to criminals make a formal announcement in advance letting someone know there is an attack coming? That certainly would make things more convenient, but.....
I mean...if you have time to go home and get your pistol when the threat shows up, you aren't under imminent risk of severe bodily harm or death, in the first place.
I think I know where you're going with this. I say to each his own. If carrying a gun seems like overkill for your situation, then don't do it. Things will "probably" turn out okay.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:58 pm to coachcrisp
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PS- It only takes once not having protection when it's needed.
Why did you turn this into a Sex Ed thread?
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:10 pm to LB84
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PS- It only takes once not having protection when it's needed.
Why did you turn this into a Sex Ed thread?
Upvote for you.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:40 pm to Pandy Fackler
Meterosexual hipsters aren't usually NRA men.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 4:27 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Never give your opponent help.
But what about a clear warning?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:29 pm to LB84
quote:Because either way, you're fricked!
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PS- It only takes once not having protection when it's needed.
Why did you turn this into a Sex Ed thread?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:12 pm to coachcrisp
Why did you turn this into a Sex Ed thread?
Because either way, you're fricked
Because either way, you're fricked
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:35 am to Pandy Fackler
I don't carry a firearm at all but we have a couple of guys that open carry at church every service in case some loser decides to make a name for himself at our expense. Regardless, why are you crapping on somebody's right to openly bare arms? I don't choose to do it but I don't care if you do.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 11:38 am to Commander Data
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don't carry a firearm at all but we have a couple of guys that open carry at church every service in case some loser decides to make a name for himself at our expense. Regardless, why are you crapping on somebody's right to openly bare arms? I don't choose to do it but I don't care if you do.
I think everyone should have the right to bear arms.
There are about 300 to 400 thousand houses of worship in the United states of America, that span across all religions. Primarily Christian.
Approximately 130 million people attend a religious service once per week.
In the last 20 years there have been 18 church shootings, with about 600 people killed.
300 to 400 thousand houses of worship. 130 million regular church attendees. 600 shooting deaths in the last 20 years, which averages 30 per year.
30 out of 130 million.
And with those numbers in mind, you actually know people who openly carry a loaded gun in church? Really?
Oh and I don't care if someone openly carries a loaded pistol.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:39 pm to coachcrisp
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Read the newspapers, Pandy. You're not being objective, and are trying to trivialize things. It's obvious that you've got an opinion, but aggressively contesting the "other side" won't sway anyone. Hell, blame the nat'l media if you want someone/something to blame....perception becomes reality.
I'm being very objective.
I live in st. tammany parish Louisiana.
Last year there were approx 750 reported violent crimes that run the gamut between murder and simple battery. With less than 20 being murder.
There are approx 260 thousand people who live in st tammany parish.
750 out of 260 thousand people were victims of violent crime in the parish where I reside and the vast majority of those were simple battery.
Where I live, the "perception" as you put it does not "match the reality" yet I still see grown suburban men openly carrying a loaded gun with some regularity.
It's odd and it seems to me, these men are overreacting to those newspapers you're reading, the same papers you want me to read.
It seems the "national media" you speak of has these suburban men fearing the suburban threat is very real, despite the fact that perception is indeed not reality. The facts don't support said perception.
They would do well to close their newspaper.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:17 pm to Pandy Fackler
Did you ever think that could be the reason for so few violent crimes in your community?...Are you gonna jump someone with a pistol on his hip? 
At least you DO realize and openly state that there is a serious "fake news problem in the country!
At least you DO realize and openly state that there is a serious "fake news problem in the country!
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:35 pm to coachcrisp
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Did you ever think that could be the reason for so few violent crimes in your community?
I live in a predominantly white middle class/upper middle class parish. So no. Not once have I considered open carry reduces crime in the parish I reside in.
And yes, there's a tremendous fake news problem.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:40 pm to Pandy Fackler
They do it to match their holster clip cell phone. They want to look balanced in their starched cargo pants while at the local church league softball game.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:42 pm to yatesdog38
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They do it to match their holster clip cell phone. They want to look balanced in their starched cargo pants while at the local church league softball game.
Oddly enough that's one of the best answers I've gotten so far.
Upvote for you.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:12 pm to Pandy Fackler
I wouldn't open carry even if it was legal here. I carry a Glock 19 in my holster purse.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:57 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:There's your problem! Do you think that your parish is the norm for the majority of America? I live in a similar place and realize that the majority of Americans deal with an entirely different world from mine.
I live in a predominantly white middle class/upper middle class parish. So no. Not once have I considered open carry reduces crime in the parish I reside in.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:10 pm to coachcrisp
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I live in a predominantly white middle class/upper middle class parish. So no. Not once have I considered open carry reduces crime in the parish I reside in.
There's your problem! Do you think that your parish is the norm for the majority of America? I live in a similar place and realize that the majority of Americans deal with an entirely different world from mine.
I wasn't asking the open carry question as it relates to "the majority of america".
Oh and also. Approx 70% of all Americans are middle class/upper middle class so we actually represent the overwhelming majority. So yes, it is the norm.
So the "majority of Americans" in actuality don't "deal with an entirely different world" than yours. Or mine for that matter.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 6:26 pm
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