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re: Ok, i've got a question for you "open carry" guys.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:34 pm to Pandy Fackler
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:34 pm to Pandy Fackler
You'll notice that a ton of open carry guys are usually guys who would have never met the physical or mental qualifications to enter the military. This isn't to say it's always the case, but they're, in my experience, either boot camp rejects or guys who were washed out/separated early.
However, I actually look toward Leftist thinking people to explain the phenomenon because they exhibit it a lot. You see, most American Liberals' heroes are victims of oppression and because of this, they look for ways to be like their heroes and we have this really bizarre thing where people think there are racist/sexist affronts in day to day conversations that simply are not there.
You ask a Liberal who Harriet Tubman was and they know who it is right away and even rely on fake history to bolster up how 'good' she was. MLK, Malcolm X, Harriet Tubman etc. etc.., you can see a pattern in it.
You ask a Liberal who William Harvey Carney was and they'll be hard pressed to tell you without whipping out their phone.
Open Carry is the Right-Wing equivalent of American Liberals trying to see themselves in their heroes. They love the Constitution and Forefathers like it were a religious cult, and so they seek to be "revolutionaries" as well. Standing up the evil tyrants and doing what's their right bah gawd.
You can also see it in people who deliberately make a police officer's life that much harder by doing things like not producing their Identification when asked by a Law Enforcement officer. They want everything to be a heroic moment like their idols.
Any person with a few ounces of intellect understand that concealed carry is not just safer, it's strategic! The whole point of warfare as early as Sun Tzu is deception, not showing your hand to the enemy.
However, I actually look toward Leftist thinking people to explain the phenomenon because they exhibit it a lot. You see, most American Liberals' heroes are victims of oppression and because of this, they look for ways to be like their heroes and we have this really bizarre thing where people think there are racist/sexist affronts in day to day conversations that simply are not there.
You ask a Liberal who Harriet Tubman was and they know who it is right away and even rely on fake history to bolster up how 'good' she was. MLK, Malcolm X, Harriet Tubman etc. etc.., you can see a pattern in it.
You ask a Liberal who William Harvey Carney was and they'll be hard pressed to tell you without whipping out their phone.
Open Carry is the Right-Wing equivalent of American Liberals trying to see themselves in their heroes. They love the Constitution and Forefathers like it were a religious cult, and so they seek to be "revolutionaries" as well. Standing up the evil tyrants and doing what's their right bah gawd.
You can also see it in people who deliberately make a police officer's life that much harder by doing things like not producing their Identification when asked by a Law Enforcement officer. They want everything to be a heroic moment like their idols.
Any person with a few ounces of intellect understand that concealed carry is not just safer, it's strategic! The whole point of warfare as early as Sun Tzu is deception, not showing your hand to the enemy.
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:40 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You'll notice that a ton of open carry guys are usually guys who would have never met the physical or mental qualifications to enter the military. This isn't to say it's always the case, but they're, in my experience, either boot camp rejects or guys who were washed out/separated early.
However, I actually look toward Leftist thinking people to explain the phenomenon because they exhibit it a lot. You see, most American Liberals' heroes are victims of oppression and because of this, they look for ways to be like their heroes and we have this really bizarre thing where people think there are racist/sexist affronts in day to day conversations that simply are not there.
You ask a Liberal who Harriet Tubman was and they know who it is right away and even rely on fake history to bolster up how 'good' she was. MLK, Malcolm X, Harriet Tubman etc. etc.., you can see a pattern in it.
You ask a Liberal who William Harvey Carney was and they'll be hard pressed to tell you without whipping out their phone.
Open Carry is the Right-Wing equivalent of American Liberals trying to see themselves in their heroes. They love the Constitution and Forefathers like it were a religious cult, and so they seek to be "revolutionaries" as well. Standing up the evil tyrants and doing what's their right bah gawd.
You can also see it in people who deliberately make a police officer's life that much harder by doing things like not producing their Identification when asked by a Law Enforcement officer. They want everything to be a heroic moment like their idols.
Any person with a few ounces of intellect understand that concealed carry is not just safer, it's strategic! The whole point of warfare as early as Sun Tzu is deception, not showing your hand to the enemy.
That's alot and i appreciate it and i did read it. But i think you answered it pretty well in the first paragraph.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:18 pm to Pandy Fackler
I see what you're getting at but to be fair, he is right.
Because he can.
Because you can question him on an open forum.
Because I can reply to this thread.
What we all need to think about is, why the frick does it matter?
It mattered enough for you to make a thread about it, and yet when another human states their opinion, it mattered enough for you to ridicule them...
And here we are, all trying to prove a point(s) to each other, succumbing to the very thing we are debating against...
.... because we can.
Because he can.
Because you can question him on an open forum.
Because I can reply to this thread.
What we all need to think about is, why the frick does it matter?
It mattered enough for you to make a thread about it, and yet when another human states their opinion, it mattered enough for you to ridicule them...
And here we are, all trying to prove a point(s) to each other, succumbing to the very thing we are debating against...
.... because we can.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:42 am to Pandy Fackler
I would never open carry. Never give your opponent help.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:19 am to teamjackson
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I see what you're getting at but to be fair, he is right.
Because he can.
Because you can question him on an open forum.
Because I can reply to this thread.
What we all need to think about is, why the frick does it matter?
It mattered enough for you to make a thread about it, and yet when another human states their opinion, it mattered enough for you to ridicule them...
And here we are, all trying to prove a point(s) to each other, succumbing to the very thing we are debating against...
.... because we can.
That's very poetic.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:29 am to imjustafatkid
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Concealed carrying takes an extra license that I don't want to pay for.
I get it.
When do you openly carry your gun? When you're just sorta out and about? You know, just knockin' around or whatever?
Does it make you feel safe?
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 7:30 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:43 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:I believe that there's actually two schools of thought on the subject. Some people want to be able to carry a weapon for protection, but don't want people to know they're armed, while there are some who believe the best deterrent to potential confrontation is theshow of force....sort of like our sending the fleet over to the Strait of Hormuz to "remind" our Iranian friends not to come too close to the flame.
But what about people who open carry during daylight hours in the suburbs? I see that more and more nowadays.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:57 am to coachcrisp
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But what about people who open carry during daylight hours in the suburbs? I see that more and more nowadays.
I believe that there's actually two schools of thought on the subject. Some people want to be able to carry a weapon for protection, but don't want people to know they're armed, while there are some who believe the best deterrent to potential confrontation is theshow of force....sort of like our sending the fleet over to the Strait of Hormuz to "remind" our Iranian friends not to come too close to the flame. ?
So the suburban threat is very real then?
Alotta shite can down I guess at 1pm in the home depot/bed bath and beyond parking lot.
So the guy with a loaded pistol on his belt is telling braylen's mom and the guy refinishing his deck not to "come to close to the flame"? He's giving them fair warning?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:06 am to Pandy Fackler
Read the newspapers, Pandy. You're not being objective, and are trying to trivialize things. It's obvious that you've got an opinion, but aggressively contesting the "other side" won't sway anyone. Hell, blame the nat'l media if you want someone/something to blame....perception becomes reality.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:11 am to Pandy Fackler
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Ok, i've got a question for you "open carry" guys.
Why not just admit it and say you'd like to see it outlawed? The anti-gunners would appreciate it.
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Are you afraid of something?
What exactly should anyone carrying a gun be afraid of?
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Why do you do it?
I am a concealed carry guy 99% of the time. But I'd like for you to explain the most comfortable way to carry a Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum concealed. I open carry that sometimes, on my own property. Should that be outlawed, as well?
I believe you are complaining about something that is a MUCH bigger issue online than it is in real life.
I live in one of the most gun-happy places in the country- and it's as rare as Bigfoot to see an open carrier where it causes a scene.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 9:13 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:17 am to Pandy Fackler
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But what about people who open carry during daylight hours in the suburbs? I see that more and more nowadays.
If it truly bothers you, avoid really small towns. It's a lot more prevalent there, per capita- and no one bats an eye.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:26 am to Pandy Fackler
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Pandy Fackler
Why do you care if they open carry? Are you afraid of them?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:53 am to oleheat
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Why not just admit it and say you'd like to see it outlawed? The anti-gunners would appreciate it.
I don't want to see it outlawed. I'm simply curious as to the motivation.
The answer "because I can" is lazy minded and intellectually vacant. Unless of course the goal is to simply make a social/political statement. That's how liberals cram their ideology down people's throats all the time. By simply shoving their belief system in the faces of others.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:54 am to oleheat
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I am a concealed carry guy 99% of the time. But I'd like for you to explain the most comfortable way to carry a Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum concealed. I open carry that sometimes, on my own property. Should that be outlawed, as well?
No, it should not be outlawed.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:57 am to oleheat
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I live in one of the most gun-happy places in the country- and it's as rare as Bigfoot to see an open carrier where it causes a scene.
You're right. Someone carrying a loaded pistol on their belt for the whole world to see never causes a scene.
People like that are left alone and given a wide berth. That's a big part of the appeal.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 10:00 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
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Why do you care if they open carry? Are you afraid of them?
No I'm not.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 10:08 am to oleheat
[quote]If it truly bothers you, avoid really small towns. It's a lot more prevalent there, per capita- and no one bats an eye.
It's just a social observation.
So why do you think they openly carry a loaded pistol if there's no real danger or threat?
What do you think the psychology is behind that?
Alcohol for instance often provides "liquid courage" and confidence for those who can't find it.
Does openly carrying a loaded gun equal 'steel courage"?
What's your opinion on why someone would openly carry a loaded pistol in their day to day lives when there's no meaningful threat?
It's just a social observation.
So why do you think they openly carry a loaded pistol if there's no real danger or threat?
What do you think the psychology is behind that?
Alcohol for instance often provides "liquid courage" and confidence for those who can't find it.
Does openly carrying a loaded gun equal 'steel courage"?
What's your opinion on why someone would openly carry a loaded pistol in their day to day lives when there's no meaningful threat?
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 10:21 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 10:19 am to oleheat
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What exactly should anyone carrying a gun be afraid of?
If you're openly carrying a loaded pistol in safe public places then you're afraid of something.
By definition, if you've armed yourself with a gun you're harboring some sort of fear, worry or concern and said gun helps diminish that fear, worry or concern.
People who don't arm themselves in public places really are the ones who aren't influenced by their fears or succumb to them by openly carrying a loaded pistol.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 10:20 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 10:54 am to Pandy Fackler
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What do you gain from openly carrying a firearm?
Apparently triggering people like you.
I'm not the open carry type, mainly for tactical purposes.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 10:57 am to TbirdSpur2010
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What do you gain from openly carrying a firearm?
Apparently triggering people like you.
Do you think that's really the reason? I suspect that's a big part of it. Much in the same way liberals try to trigger conservatives by simply doing certain things "because they can".
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