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Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 7:38 pm to
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Majority of Americans believe in ghosts



Americans are going to elect a corrupt politician who has jeopardized our national security on multiple occasions.
This makes perfect sense.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63989 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 8:15 pm to
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Stem Cell Research is a huge example of this.

Their model is better, but we can catch up by removing religious restrictions to viable scientific research.

There is absolutely no reason there shouldn't be government grants for something like Stem Call Research, and we dropped the ball on not beginning sooner rather than later.


There is plenty of embryonic stem cell research in the US. The media wants you to think it is banned, but that is simply not true.

UGA is one of the universities doing alot of embryonic stem cell research. With federal money.


Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:32 am to
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There is plenty of embryonic stem cell research in the US. The media wants you to think it is banned, but that is simply not true.

UGA is one of the universities doing alot of embryonic stem cell research. With federal money.


Because it was reversed by President Obama (quietly).

But there were plenty of years we could have been studying but we had to wait for Christian Conservatives to get on board.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:16 pm to
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But there were plenty of years we could have been studying but we had to wait for Christian Conservatives to get on board.


I don't think they've gotten on board with science. Rather, they're being somewhat rooted out of government where their influence has been holding the U.S. back and allowing China to catch up.
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5173 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:46 pm to
You say people are stupid because they believe in things we can't prove yet. You can't scientifically prove the existence of supernatural beings, so they don't exist you say. Not so terribly long ago, we couldn't "prove" the Earth was round. Thirty years ago, many of you would have said teleportation was impossible. We can teleport atomic particles over distance now.

None (few?) of you are actual scientists that have done actual research on anything and form opinions about things that actually matter in your lives based on zero personally audited facts. You believe what you heard or read someone else say or write. How do you KNOW supernatural beings do not exist to the degree you feel comfortable ridiculing others for believing in them? I would think, since it will matter to you one day if not now, you would do everything you could be sure of what you believe in.

One day you will all believe in the supernatural. Because it is for real. Hope you are ready for that.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:50 pm to
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I don't think they've gotten on board with science.


Science doesn't exist without God, I think most Christians know that.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:56 pm to
People realize that some of the biggest scientists ever are Christians, right? They are by no means mutually exclusive.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:06 pm to
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Science doesn't exist without God, I think most Christians know that.


Of course they do. It's some conservative Christians. I should have emphasized that.

Matt Bevin, for example, is one of those evangical Christians who thinks that Christianity, specifically his version, should be the governing authority. He disrespects, and tries to ignore, America's tradition of separation of church and state.

Many evangelicals see the democratic process merely as a way to gain access to power so that they can effect their influence upon the populace. Of course they're not the only group that attempts to do that, just the biggest and to date the most effective at doing it.

Thankfully, our democratic processes are resilient and, even though it can take time, even the strongest and most influential groups are inevitably pushed back to the boundaries that our Constitution has set for them. True freedom can only be experienced when each group respects the boundaries of all other groups.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:33 pm to
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Science doesn't exist without God

It could.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 10:10 pm to
One in damn house right now lol
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 10:25 pm to
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40% of Americans believe the Earth is less than 10k years old, 55% deny the Earth is warming, 60% can't name all 7 continents, 75% can't name more than two members of Obama's cabinet and our choices for President are Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton.

America is full of complete morons


To be fair, I follow politics at least an hour a day, and I couldn't name the Secretary of Agriculture, Labor, HUD, HHS, Transportation, Energy or Education if my life depended on it. Loretta Lynch and John Kerry are the only ones I can name. I should know the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Treasury, but I don't. :(
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 7:53 am to
I don't think it's all that crazy. spirits/ghosts/residual energy call it what you will can not be conclusively proven or disproven. I have witnessed some very strange things in my life was it some ghost? Don't know, but it was out of my realm of explanation.

There are a lot of things people think its stupid to believe exists because it has yet to be proven. Some people think its ridiculous to believe in extraterrestrial life, but mathematically it's almost insane to believe that we are the only living beings in the universe.

What's crazier believing something could exist or staunchly believing it can't absent any reasonable proof either way.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:01 am to
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don't think they've gotten on board with science. Rather, they're being somewhat rooted out of government where their influence has been holding the U.S. back and allowing China to catch up.


You think religion is what has caused America to "fall behind" China? That's a bit of a stretch. While religion may hold back some areas of since on moral grounds, and I agree with some of them, it has more to do with culture and politics than religion. China has no problem forcing people from an early age to engage in a field they show promise in. They also have far less freedom and the government devotes it's resources to programs and research that will help the state. they really don't care very much about their people or ethics. And how is separation of church and state in anyway relate to science? I didn't know that the state had the market cornered on research. If you are referring to regulations, well I don't think that science should be free to do as it pleases regardless of the consequences to society or the freedoms of others.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:31 am to
Kentucker just despises religion, mostly he's cool other than the axe he has to grind there, though.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:55 am to
Doesn't Kentucker at, the very least, have a good example? I'm not much of a fan of religion, or fake prohpets, but we did get put behind Stem Cell Research (example) specifically, exclusively and totally by Christian conservatives.

Gay Marriage. I don't agree with it, but I sure as frick don't agree with outlawing it. If I were gonna outlaw something it'd be marriage in general so poor gullible men stopped getting fricked over by divorce.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:14 am to
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Kentucker just despises religion, mostly he's cool other than the axe he has to grind there, though.


I mean I'm no great defender of religion I just think its more than a bit of a stretch to claim that religion or lack of is the root cause of China's rise and America's decline.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:18 am to
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Doesn't Kentucker at, the very least, have a good example? I'm not much of a fan of religion, or fake prohpets, but we did get put behind Stem Cell Research (example) specifically, exclusively and totally by Christian conservatives.



Yes but I think there are some moral and ethical issues with stem cell research that needed answering...but shutting it down was not the right thing either.

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Gay Marriage. I don't agree with it, but I sure as frick don't agree with outlawing it. If I were gonna outlaw something it'd be marriage in general so poor gullible men stopped getting fricked over by divorce.



Not really sure how gay marriage plays any part in this. China sure as hell isn't ok with gay marriage. And I really don't see how that argument keeps us behind or moves us ahead either way it falls.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:33 am to
Nah. If China surpasses us, it'll be for a variety of reasons, not just because some folks are religious (which completely ignores the fact that many scientists of faith have no interest in hindering scientific progress, btw). It's lazy and painting with a broad brush because he has a problem with religion.

I don't mind people who dislike religion. I just hate broad brushes

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Gay Marriage. I don't agree with it, but I sure as frick don't agree with outlawing it.


I'm not interested in hindering anyone from getting married, tbh. Got enough on my hands just tryna keep my own marriage off the rocks on a good day

Hell, I think polygamy should be legal. Same for prostitution. I identify as conservative and traditional Christian on most things, but sexuality ain't really one of 'em.

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If I were gonna outlaw something it'd be marriage in general so poor gullible men stopped getting fricked over by divorce.



We need to overhaul the legal system surrounding divorce. That's what's fricking men over, tbh.


Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54681 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:41 am to
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Matt Bevin, for example, is one of those evangical Christians who thinks that Christianity, specifically his version, should be the governing authority. He disrespects, and tries to ignore, America's tradition of separation of church and state.


Matt Bevin is a preview of a Trump presidency. Both are bad for the democratic process, just Bevin cloaks his in religion and Trump in the modern religion of media.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8177 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 12:24 pm to
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Kentucker just despises religion


This pretty much sums up the thread.

The reasons for China's rise are numerous and debatable but it has nothing to do with religion or a lack thereof.
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