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re: Has anyone been more dominant, more respected, more known in sports than Jordan?

Posted on 10/10/15 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 12:20 pm to
Jordan would not be an average athlete today. It hasn't been 100 years; athletes haven't improved that much.

What separates Jordan was his ability to score. Some people just have that natural ability around the rim and know how to create separation. I've never seen a player be able to create separation like MJ. Your boy Tony Parker is Probably the best in the league at it right now. Kobe can, but he will just shoot it with a hand in his face all the same. Lebron is big as hell and has a natural separation already.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 12:23 pm to
Jordon is the Babe Ruth of his time.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 12:34 pm to
Babe Ruth was almost as good a pitcher as he was a hitter. Think about that. He held (maybe still does) the record for scoreless innings in WS play.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 1:42 pm to
Wayne Gretzky? Michael Phelps? Tiger Woods? Joe Montana? They're up there.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 2:36 pm to
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Wayne Gretzky


Completely in the running. Niche-y sport, but completely dominant.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 3:14 pm to
Definitely the Great one
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 3:22 pm to
Pele.

When you consider just how popular Pele was even here in America when soccer wasn't even close to being as televised/publicized as it is now, it's pretty impressive. He's well known across the world, the Pope has one of his jerseys, and he's an honorary Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire per Queen Elizabeth II.
This post was edited on 10/10/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 3:42 pm to
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What separates Jordan was his ability to score. Some people just have that natural ability around the rim and know how to create separation.


More players are ridiculously good at it today than in Jordan's day, and do it at insanely efficient clips.

Jordan wouldn't be pedestrian today, but like I said, he was ahead of his time, so he stood out in ways that even better players today do not because he was the "first mover."

That's not to denigrate MJ, either--what he started caused the game to improve in a way it might not have had he not come along.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

What separates Jordan was his ability to score. Some people just have that natural ability around the rim and know how to create separation. I've never seen a player be able to create separation like MJ. Your boy Tony Parker is Probably the best in the league at it right now. Kobe can, but he will just shoot it with a hand in his face all the same. Lebron is big as hell and has a natural separation already.


Dirk gets separation.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 3:46 pm to
If you don't think Jordan was the goat...just ask him.
Posted by Tropic Lightning
South Florida
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 4:34 pm to
Roger Federer, Cale Sanderson, Rocky Marciano, Mariano Rivera, Tom Brady, Alexander Kerelin, Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 10/10/15 at 4:35 pm to
Dirk is 7 feet tall. Of course he gets separation.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 10/10/15 at 4:36 pm to
I agree with ya TB. I was just saying he wouldn't be an average athlete. He was still a 40 inch vertical kinda player.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 10/10/15 at 5:48 pm to
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Dirk is 7 feet tall. Of course he gets separation.


I mean he doesn't get separation just because he's tall. He's 7th on the all time scoring list, and plenty of 7 footers have played the game.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27827 posts
Posted on 10/10/15 at 6:39 pm to
Are you really forgetting about Joe Namath? Or are you too young to remember his Hey Day, He was pretty damn famous.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 10:21 pm to
Yeah poor choice of words on my part. He was an elite athlete. There are just more like him in the game today IMO.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:03 am to
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My AP Human Geo text book said he was the most known person in the history of the world, alive or dead


Sorry but I don't believe this for one second. People all over the planet start teaching their kids about Jesus from the time they're little children. Aside from the most remote, deserted, backwoods 8th world tribe villages in africa you'd be hard pressed to find anyone the world over the age of 10 who doesnt' at least have SOME knoweldge or recognition of who Jesus is.

Compare that to a basketball player in the 90s in the USA. I'm quite sure people in sudan aren't teaching their children about the 88 dunk contest.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:47 am to
Y'all are all stupid.

Everybody knows it's Rocky.

Duh!

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:45 pm to
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Compare that to a basketball player in the 90s in the USA.

I am going to guess that Secretariat has a higher Q factor than Jordan and well below Jeebus.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:09 pm to
Idk about secretariat..considering all the endorsement deals and clothing that MJ had.

My whole point was...people actually make a conscious effort to teach their offspring about Jesus (or whatever religion they are) from the time they're young. People in China or Russia or Egypt or whatever may at some point in their lives have seen MJ during an olympic game or something, but people aren't actively teaching their children about jordan.

That comment was just so wildly unbelievable I doubt a texabook would print it, nor do I even know how that statement could even be veririfed in the first place.
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