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re: Gary Johnson vs Donald Trump
Posted on 7/7/16 at 2:11 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 7/7/16 at 2:11 pm to imjustafatkid
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Gary Johnson wants open borders and said Hillary's email actions weren't criminal.
He is completely disqualified from my pool of candidates.
I can't stand Hillary Clinton. I think she deserves to be in prison (not a legal judgment, my ethical judgment of her character). But to say that her email actions weren't criminal is factually correct. The FBI investigated and found that they were not criminal.
Saying that something is not criminal is not the same as saying it is ethical. The problem, in my opinion, is that the law is poorly written. It gives people in positions of power too much leniency when they abuse that power and it comes down too hard on people at the bottom of the food chain who are trying to inform the public of unethical/illegal things that our government is doing.
The solution is not to ignore the law and put Hillary Clinton in prison anyway. The solution is to change the law, but that's a lot more difficult than expressing outrage.
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 2:18 pm to Papplesbeast
Weird how they weren't criminal but the fricking guy said anybody else would be prosecuted
Posted on 7/7/16 at 3:12 pm to LewDawg
Who said what, specifically?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 5:56 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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f you support Trump, explain how he is better and give concrete examples.
First, I think he's better simply because of his views on foreign trade.
Johnson's ideas work in a microcosm and when confronted on whether or not he could produce results on the Joe Rogan Podcast he dodged the question.
I'm not Libertarian, nor am I conservative, but I would never vote for Clinton in a billion years.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:51 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:06 am to Papplesbeast
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But to say that her email actions weren't criminal is factually correct. The FBI investigated and found that they were not criminal.
The FBI also admitted that anyone else would have received punishment. They basically said it's criminal, but she's better than that. Johnson is a loon for going along with that narrative.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:50 am to imjustafatkid
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he FBI also admitted that anyone else would have received punishment. They basically said it's criminal, but she's better than that. Johnson is a loon for going along with that narrative.
Actually, the FBI said that anyone else would receive punishment, but would not be prosecuted. They are not in position to issue punishment to Clinton...and while I'm sure that she has done things that are worthy of prosecution...this doesn't apper to be one.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:49 am to HogFanfromHTown
Johnson
Posted on 7/8/16 at 10:39 am to NYCAuburn
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Johnson will be lucky to get 2-3 million
He has nearly no chance to win, but this is insane. He'll get far more than 3 million votes.
I'll predict he gets 7 million votes, which would be around 6% probably.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:02 pm to JamalSanders
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My views line up closer to Johnson than Trump. I am voting for Trump because I do not feel like there will be a large enough group of people vote for Johnson to allow him the chunk of money in the next election that both the Republicans and Democrats will get. Johnson has zero chance in hell of winning and only a sliver a chance of getting an electoral vote.
Folks like you have held our country back with this attitude.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 5:49 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Trump has no views. He spews and throws so much shite about nothing and everything but in the end - he just tells mindless fricks how great he is. And that's putting it mildly. Trump supporters and Hillary haters are going to be disappointed when "real" debates come about this fall. Hillary, like her or not, is one cagey bitch when it comes to debates and will absolutely destroy the flourescent rodent when the tough questions come.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 6:29 am to HogFanfromHTown
I really want to vote for Johnson, but I strongly disagree with him on borders. Enough that I can't pull the lever for him.
...And abortion, but I have no desire for a president to run on a stance of overturning Roe v Wade. I'd prefer a president that teaches responsibility from the top and hope that moves on down. I'm actually glad that Trump has effectively made gay marriage and abortion a moot point this cycle.
The other main thing is that Johnson admits to smoking weed up to 2 weeks before the convention. While I'm all for weed being legal, I'd like a president who is willing to obey laws and not flaunt them.
...And abortion, but I have no desire for a president to run on a stance of overturning Roe v Wade. I'd prefer a president that teaches responsibility from the top and hope that moves on down. I'm actually glad that Trump has effectively made gay marriage and abortion a moot point this cycle.
The other main thing is that Johnson admits to smoking weed up to 2 weeks before the convention. While I'm all for weed being legal, I'd like a president who is willing to obey laws and not flaunt them.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 6:33 am to madmaxvol
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Actually, the FBI said that anyone else would receive punishment, but would not be prosecuted. They are not in position to issue punishment to Clinton...and while I'm sure that she has done things that are worthy of prosecution...this doesn't apper to be one.
Tell that to Kristian Saucier. You can find him waiting to see which federal prison he will call home for roughly the next decade. He took photos of his sub with his phone then later deleted them and lied about it. Sound familiar? Unlike Clinton, his photos were not on the Internet and he never made any effort nor was we ever suspected of wanting to turn them over to anyone else.
She wasn't prosecuted because she is Hillary Clinton, who was Secretary of State at the time of her actions. Her lead witness would have been the POTUS, who would have testified he knew of the private account.
It was an unwinnable case. At best, you were looking at a hung jury. Prosecutors decline cases because they can't win them all the time. It is an uncomfortable but valid reason and was probably the correct decision here but when the FBI director said others would not have been prosecuted he blatantly lied because it happened as recently as last year.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 8:52 am to JustGetItRight
But, unlike Clinton, Saucier did have real top secret information on his phone. Makes one wonder what was on his laptop that he smashed to pieces before the FBI could get it.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 9:34 am to HogFanfromHTown
Registered dem here and voting for Johnson
Posted on 7/23/16 at 1:20 pm to KoachKletus
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unlike Clinton, Saucier did have real top secret information on his phone.
You might want to review what Clinton said she had and compare that to what the FBI said she really had - and remember that does not include the thousands of messages she deleted that were unrecoverable.
The two situations are damned near identical with the only difference aside from the stature of the people involved is that Clinton employed an IT staff to do it for her and the sailor did it himself.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 3:13 pm to HogFanfromHTown
Gary Johnson is not now, nor will he ever be electable. Seniors vote, and vote en masse. No one who wants to reduce or eliminate social security and medicare is going to get their support.
He'll get some votes from those who want to decriminalize some drugs and make others completely legal, some others from top earners, and votes from those few with true libertarian ideals.
And since it's a presidential election, every single one of them will have wasted their vote. Until you can win state, local, and congressional seats, there can be no such thing as a legitimate third party candidate.
He'll get some votes from those who want to decriminalize some drugs and make others completely legal, some others from top earners, and votes from those few with true libertarian ideals.
And since it's a presidential election, every single one of them will have wasted their vote. Until you can win state, local, and congressional seats, there can be no such thing as a legitimate third party candidate.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 3:16 pm to djsdawg
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Folks like you have held our country back with this attitude.
That's BS. And absolutely false.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 7:39 pm to HogFanfromHTown
The only goal at this point is to keep crooked hillary out.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 8:47 pm to Evolved Simian
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And since it's a presidential election, every single one of them will have wasted their vote.
A wasted vote is voting for the lesser of two evils even though you don't like either candidate. My vote for Gary Johnson is not a wasted vote. It would be a waste if I resorted to voting for one of two candidates that I absolutely hate and disagree with on almost everything.
There are millions of people who say "I would vote for Johnson, but he doesn't stand a chance." Well, maybe if all of these people who agree with Johnson but won't vote for him because they don't think he stands a chance would actually vote... well, me might stand a chance.
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