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re: Catholic couple fined $13,000 for refusing to host same-sex ‘wedding’
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:16 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:16 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:20 pm to the808bass
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Why would you want a racist to perform your wedding if you're black?
That's not what's happening, or what's proposed in the hypothetical changing the gay couple for the interracial couple. A venue for a wedding was listed for rent. Publically. They try to rent the property, they were refused because they were gay. Given the recording nature, they were prepared to trap them in their discrimination, so obviously it was much more convoluted. The land owners weren't the ones performing the ceremony. They simply owned a farm meant to be rented foir weddings.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:20 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Some regulations that even promote the free market.
"free Market" Is that like where you take your business to an establishment that wants it? Where you find a business that wants to cater to your wishes? Seems like a great idea.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:20 pm to the808bass
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Why would you want a racist to perform your wedding if you're black? Why do we need people to be forced to agree with us?
Why would a black person want to drink out of a whites only water fountain?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:22 pm to the808bass
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It was a ridiculous hypothetical. It still doesn't change the answer.
Well, you are the authority on ridiculous, after all.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:25 pm to Stonehog
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Why would a black person want to drink out of a whites only water fountain?
Didn't realize we still had those.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:27 pm to Vols&Shaft83
So you are just going to ignore everything I've stated, huh? That's disappointing.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:28 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Didn't realize we still had those.
Guess why they're gone.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:32 pm to TeLeFaWx
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So you are just going to ignore everything I've stated, huh? That's disappointing.
I'm not ignoring it, I'm just disagreeing based upon my belief in private property rights. Surely I'm within my constitutional rights to disagree with you, am I not?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:36 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Surely I'm within my constitutional rights to disagree with you, am I not?
Disagreeing with me about what exactly? You repeatedly told me to stop comparing being black with choosing to get married, a complete mischaracterization of the events being discussed, and then boom... flat out refusal to respond to any clarifications. And as it comes to person property rights, I also agree with them, but personal property is not the issue at hand, as I have so clearly stated. Commerce is.
So are you just going to say "private property rights" and be done with it? Just curious. If you don't like where this conversation is going because you sense that it exposes your own ignorance in to personal property rights that's fine. No judgement. You just seemed so adamant, I figured you had some sort of idea the difference between commerce and no commerce.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:39 pm to Stonehog
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Why would a black person want to drink out of a whites only water fountain?
When all else fails, compare blacks to gays.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:40 pm to TeLeFaWx
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That's not what's happening, or what's proposed in the hypothetical changing the gay couple for the interracial couple.
When I answer a hypothetical and then you revert to the current actual situation, it doesn't change the hypothetical.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:41 pm to the808bass
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When all else fails, compare blacks to gays.
Why is one class of people being discriminated against different than another?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:41 pm to the808bass
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When all else fails, compare blacks to gays.
Pretty sure the lesbos won the case. So the gay haters actually failed.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:42 pm to TeLeFaWx
Yes, I would be breeding strictly heterosexual cattle on my property.
Are you going to call the feds?
Are you going to call the feds?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:43 pm to Kentucker
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Guess why they're gone.
They're not. There was a convenience store off of Nations Ford road in Charlotte that wouldn't serve white folk. I know because I tried to buy a soda there. Guess what I didn't do? Sue. Guess what I did do? Go to a different fricking convenience store.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:43 pm to the808bass
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When I answer a hypothetical and then you revert to the current actual situation, it doesn't change the hypothetical.
Refresh my memory, what are you referring to? What hypothetical did you answer, what did I change it to, and how did I imply it changed the hypothetical?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:44 pm to TeLeFaWx
You can click the link on the post to find the post to which I was replying. It's like magic.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:46 pm to auggie
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Yes, I would be breeding strictly heterosexual cattle on my property. Are you going to call the feds?
What does this have to do with the subject at hand?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:46 pm to TeLeFaWx
I've stated that the couple broke NY anti discrimination laws. I've also stated that the law is stupid because the property owners should have the right to refuse service if said service conflicts with their personal and constitutionally protected religious beliefs.
You're the one who kept bringing up civil rights violations against blacks that occurred 50 years ago.
Lemme guess, you would also support government forcing churches to perform gay marriage ceremonies?
You're the one who kept bringing up civil rights violations against blacks that occurred 50 years ago.
Lemme guess, you would also support government forcing churches to perform gay marriage ceremonies?
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