re: Are y'all going to get the vaccine?

There's no reasoning with these idiots.

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There have been zero deaths reported in connection with taking the vaccine.

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bullshite. There have been several reports of people dying right after taking the vaccine.

Now this is where you say "there's no proof the vaccine caused those deaths"

Uh huh. And I have a few hundred thousand covid deaths that could be said the same for.

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bullshite. There have been several reports of people dying right after taking the vaccine.

Now this is where you say "there's no proof the vaccine caused those deaths"

Uh huh. And I have a few hundred thousand covid deaths that could be said the same for.

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You are sadly misinformed. I suspect willful ignorance as admitting otherwise would conflict with your established political views.

Let us address your points.

People have died after getting the vaccination! Yes. Yes, they have. Do you know who was vaccinated first (along with medical personnel)? The elderly in nursing homes. Would you like to guess what group of people is more likely on a daily basis? The elderly in nursing homes.

You are making the classic correlation is causation error. This happened and then this happened so the first event must have caused the second! Usually I'd go with Ice Cream and Murder but I will change this up and go with Nicholas Cage.

Did you know there is a strong correlation in the number of people who drowned in swimming pools during a given year and the number of movies Nicholas Cage starred in that year? Using your logic Nick Cage movies cause people to drown.

If you get stoned and then wander out onto the highway and get run over the first act likely led to the causation of the second act. If you eat a breakfast burrito and later have your testicles bitten off by a rabid pit bull the burrito did not cause that rabid dog to attack you. There is no causation.

As to your claim that they are obviously covering up these deaths and that is why there is no official proof... one of the vaccines causes blood cots in an incredibly small number of patients. A bit less then 1 in a 1,000,000 from what I understand. Entire countries stopped using that vaccine even with no fatalities. You are, in essence, suggesting that this vast conspiracy is covering up vaccine related deaths but halting distribution over incredibly rare and non-lethal blood clotting.

A bold strategy sir.

Well who can say that the COVID deaths were actually caused by COVID and not Jewish Space Lasers? Sadly, we have a vast amount of autopsies to go on. Here is an article for you to enjoy LINK. Perhaps this would be more your speed LINK? To throw the blanket far afield here is one about those Godless ex-commies the evil Ruskies LINK

Now it is your inherent right to ignore the science and hold onto your belief even with no provable evidence to support your views. We cannot stop you from choosing to be ignorant. We can, however, look upon you with mixture of disdain/sympathy thinking to ourselves, there but for the Grace of God Almighty go I.

I would like to amend my previous post.

We do have our first documented vaccine induced fatality. A woman developed a blood clot and the ER she went to refused to see her. She later died.

Had they seen her than it is likely she would have easily survived. So we have our first, take a bow Canada, particularly Edmonton, vaccine related death.

So... COVID-19 3,237,808 and vaccines 1.

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BECAUSE there has never been a successful animal study of a mRNA vaccine, they have all been dismal failures, which is the reason for the liability protect given to the producers of these very experimental endeavors.

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These vaccines were tested on animals and they were successful.

Here's the one on the Pfizer vaccine. LINK

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These vaccines were tested on animals and they were successful.

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nope - that's the beginning of a test - one in it's mere infancy

While this in indeed a published (but non-peer reviewed) report it only offers that the results of creating antigens was indeed successful. This is reporting the mere priming of the body and not the results. It's the first step that all of these other vaccine attempts accomplished. And merely means the body has been primed and we now are waiting to see what happens to the participants. So yes the proper and anticipated spike protein has been created... but not any long term study.

This is merely reporting the first task went as expected... not what happens to the body as a result in 6weeks, 6months, or two years later. These other animal studies also did this, exactly this, and they all later had horrible results. Much later when the titers (or concentration) of antibodies waned or lessened and the body was later subjected and responded to a new/same/similar virus (IE: encountered a new threat). It's then when all of these poor critters suffered ADE or VADE. eta: might be a good time to mention the 600 Filipino kids and how that went - hint: criminal prosecution - its easy to search for.

And this does not address the possible ramifications of this vaccine bypassing the Brain Blood Barrier and it's possible ramifications link or what the spike protein alone (by itself apart from the virus) may do tho the lungs link. Which means we are doing the animal testing and human testing simultaneously in real time along with wide spread (global) application.

Better this administration than Trumps

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Already had Covid. My immune system handled it quite nicely. No need for a medical treatment.

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Exactly...since your immune system handled it well, there's no need to have any concern for reinfection and transmission to others. Screw them...am I right?

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Exactly...since your immune system handled it well, there's no need to have any concern for reinfection and transmission to others. Screw them...am I right?

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Are you claiming the bodies natural immunity to it is weaker than these shots?

Does it not occur to you that the reason his immune system was able to handle it so well was likely due to previous infections?

These types of things make your immune system stronger, not weaker. If we assumed that masks actually did work, then all we've done in the past year is make peoples immune systems weaker.

I'm sorry you are so scared of nature, but your fear is not justification for you to rule over my life.

You guys never read/seen War of the Worlds?

And btw, I'm not anti-vaccine. I'm anti listening to a bunch of stupid fricks try to tell people a bunch of bullshite, then try to shame people them into compliance.

If I'm older and my immune system is weaker, it makes more since. If I'm younger and my immune system is healthy, it doesn't make sense to take it.

Apparently liberals no longer believe in evolution and that our systems have been developed over hundreds of thousands of years.

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It's funny how none of this was valid when it came to covid.

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I'm a bit lost on your argument. Are you saying we have zero evidence COVID caused anyone to die? Because we have a million autopsies carried out in countries with pretty decent medical facilities that would disagree with you.

There is this dug in belief that COVID deaths were over counted and the disease wasn't actually responsible. Yet the data does not support that. It absolutely killed those people.

You are basically arguing that yes, those people did catch fire but we can't say conclusively that being on fire killed them. We absolutely can. We have medical proof repeated more than a million times.

And, believe it or not, we do have evidence that the death rate for the Elderly after getting the COVID vaccine is within the standard rates. Everyone dies, but not as rapidly as when they have caught a deadly disease. The death rate, meaning when they pass away and in what frequency, is pretty darn normal for the Elderly. Huzzah!

The death rate for the Elderly who were not vaccinated and caught COVID is quite a bit higher.

As to the argument that if you are younger and healthy you are safe... 30k of people in the US under the age of 55 have died from COVID and that doesn't count the ones with ongoing side effects. Lets bump this up a notch though. If you are 55 to 65 that adds another 54k some odd death. I do hope you weren't counting on spending some quality time with your grandkids.

People are trying to drag a virus into their own personal and political beliefs. It is a virus. It doesn't care if you are a Republican or Democrat. It doesn't care if you believe in science or want to inject bleach to cure yourself. It just wants to propagate. Hell... if the virus could care it would go out of its way to keep its hosts alive instead of killing them deader then disco.

It is like not believing in gravity. Gravity doesn't care if you believe in it or not. It just is. Get vaccinated and lets get rid of this fricking disease. Because the longer it hangs around the better the chance that it evolves (yes evolution does happen folks) into something far more terrifying.