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re: Are y'all going to get the vaccine?

Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25176 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:51 pm to
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It's documented fact that it was over counted. You can say the amount of over count is debatable, but it's a fact that it's been over counted.

And the problem with that isn't so much that it is over counted, it's that it was over counted with an agenda in mind.


OK. Show me peer reviewed studies that back your claim. I'm not saying ten cases here maybe were shady. I am saying enough people to actually make a difference.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22589 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:14 pm to
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OK. Show me peer reviewed studies that back your claim. I'm not saying ten cases here maybe were shady. I am saying enough people to actually make a difference.



I'm not spending time to do that. States had to change laws in some cases etc. Who the frick would even do such a study much less "peer review" it?

Hell can you provide a peer reviewed study in the opposite direction? frick no, because nobody is going to waste time on that shite.

Got any more lame arse cop outs to avoid the simple fact that we all know?

But again, what's funny is how when it came to covid people were looking for reasons to claim it as a covid and now here you are looking for any reason to say the opposite when it comes to the vaccine.

Hell, do you even give a shite that the mortality rate among young people is almost non-existent? That the overwhelming majority of deaths come from people who pre-existing conditions?

NOPE - COVID!!!!!!

Same thing happens after vaccine - and you are talking about it's not the vaccine, it's the pre-existing conditions.

Sorry, you can believe what you want and I'm just going to continue to find that shite funny.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10926 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:16 pm to
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OK. Show me peer reviewed studies that back your claim. I'm not saying ten cases here maybe were shady. I am saying enough people to actually make a difference.

Use to be back in the olden days of garden variety influenza, when you had 3 stints and a couple heart attacks, the cause of death would have been cardiovascular with flu as a complication or contributing factor. However in this brave new world it's simply another COVID to tally. No matter how truly ill the victim might have been.

Not to say these SARS-COV type viruses aren't more deadly; however counting things differently really makes the comparisons skewed. And it adds fire to the conversation in a way that didn't have to be. Because now Granny died after three weeks of covid instead of three decades of cigarettes and emphysema.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25176 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:07 pm to
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Sorry, you can believe what you want and I'm just going to continue to find that shite funny.


Which is you saying no. You cannot provide evidence to support your belief.

I can. Would you like to see it? I won't link unless you are willing to actually go take a look at it. But I can. It would take a few minutes.

You are all in on this belief. Can you support it? Can you honestly provide a single scientific study that supports you? Just one. I'm only asking for just one. Just one peer reviewed study. Because we a metric shite ton of peer reviewed studies on COVID you are not happy about.

Can you provide just a smidgen of science to back up your claims? Just one smidgen? If not... are you saying something because you think you should be saying something?

If you cannot come up with one, peer reviewed scientific study that backs your view point... are you right?

You can find this funny and that is fine. But can you back up your beliefs? If not you should have the decency to lead off your posts with you are just jerking off.


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22589 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:10 pm to
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Which is you saying no. You cannot provide evidence to support your belief.



So everything you believe or know to be true only comes from peer reviewed studies?

Hell, I bet 99% of the studies you have read and quoted have never been peer reviewed, much less read by you.



You're just using this shite as a cop out. "If you can't complete my outrageous request you must be wrong". There are 0 studies on the topic.


But you go on to accuse me of:

quote:


You are all in on this belief. Can you support it? Can you honestly provide a single scientific study that supports you? Just one. I'm only asking for just one. Just one peer reviewed study. Because we a metric shite ton of peer reviewed studies on COVID you are not happy about.


For starters, I'm not anti-vaccine and never said anything of the sort. I'm anti-stupid fricks like you who think saying things like "peer reviewed studies" somehow makes your smart and that you somehow get to decide what other people choose.

I'm not taking it, I believe in my immune system and it working better. I don't wash my hands all day, I don't wipe my hands after touching shopping carts and I generally don't fear bacteria. In fact, I think bacteria keeps people healthy and is a vital part of our health, including immune systems. I rarely get sick, meanwhile I watch the people who are just extreme with all that stuff constantly being sick and having problems.

My body is the product of millions of years of evolution and already has the ability to fight this off. In fact, it already has.

I don't care if you do it. If my immune system was weaker and I was higher risk, my opinion my be different.

And while you are busy making shite up and arguing against it...again, please tell me which "peer reviewed studies on COVID" I'm not happy about? Just 1.

You aren't even debating me. You are so ingrained in this debate you're just debating the points you want, while making them up to get there.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22589 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:12 pm to
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Use to be back in the olden days of garden variety influenza, when you had 3 stints and a couple heart attacks, the cause of death would have been cardiovascular with flu as a complication or contributing factor. However in this brave new world it's simply another COVID to tally. No matter how truly ill the victim might have been.

Not to say these SARS-COV type viruses aren't more deadly; however counting things differently really makes the comparisons skewed. And it adds fire to the conversation in a way that didn't have to be. Because now Granny died after three weeks of covid instead of three decades of cigarettes and emphysema.


Exactly.

But apparently you need a peer reviewed study that says this or it's false, because we as individual people are incapable of seeing and understanding this for ourselves. It's impossible for any of us to have such ability, only peer reviewed studies can give them.



Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10926 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:47 pm to
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I can. Would you like to see it?
Sure...

However there are no long term studies so don't look too long. This is not concerning the needle in my arm, or falling over on my way home, it's what happens much later. And that's an unknown which won't be until a year or so down down the road.

quote:

You cannot provide evidence to support your belief.

My links are above and they are centered primarily on the subsequent response. Because that's when every mRNA vaccine ever studied has faltered and been stopped. And there's a twenty year paper trail documenting why we haven't used this technology before now.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6837 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:43 pm to
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Exactly...since your immune system handled it well, there's no need to have any concern for reinfection and transmission to others. Screw them...am I right?


Not concerned about reinfection anymore than I'm concerned about catching the common cold. Those at-risk are taking precautions, right? So no, not concerned about transmission.
If you've been vaccinated why do you care whether or not I have? You're good, right?
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25176 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:26 pm to
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So everything you believe or know to be true only comes from peer reviewed studies?


Actually I have read a few of them. You do realize that peer reviewed studies are the basis of modern science?

Mocking that is... well. Yes. Indeed.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22589 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:19 am to
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Actually I have read a few of them. You do realize that peer reviewed studies are the basis of modern science?

Mocking that is... well. Yes. Indeed.


If you think you've read peer reviewed studies on this topic, then you don't know what peer reviewed studies are. Because nobody has had time to review or do any such things. Unless we are to say someone else read it, and that's good enough, in which case peer reviewed doesn't mean shite.

You read a study that was published, not a peer reviewed study.

Actual peer reviewed studies validate the results with their own experiments, reading of the data, etc. Even then, only parts of a study may be reviewed. It takes...time.

Pretending you even understand to know what peer reviewed studies are is....well Yes. Indeed.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 11:32 am
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16146 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:14 am to
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My links are above and they are centered primarily on the subsequent response. Because that's when every mRNA vaccine ever studied has faltered and been stopped. And there's a twenty year paper trail documenting why we haven't used this technology before now.


Correct. Experimental gene therapy shots are dangerous and have never been used on humans before the covid lie. They should not be called "vaccines" because they are NOT vaccines by definition. They are being called "vaccines" to protect big pharma from lawsuits and liability, but they are NOT VACCINES by definition.

I feel sorry for people who have bought into the lie and taken the shots. Many have already become very sick and/or died. The MSM doesn't cover it, and even attempts to hide the truth, but it's happening.

The shot is going to cause people a LOT of trouble come flu season (that is if covid no longer remains the cure for flu). It's going to give immune systems fits. We haven't even begun to see all the problems these shots are going to create.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13406 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:02 pm to
CVS carries J&J in TN
Posted by charminultra
Member since Jan 2020
2517 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:51 am to
Absolutely not
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35829 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:08 pm to
I got the damn thing to get people off my fricking back
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35829 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:12 pm to
screw it

we're not for this world anyway

I knew I was bowing to the Soviet Union/Mao/Hitler by doing it, and screw it, I'm going to Heaven when I die and it don't matter if that's 40 years from now or today


Screw you "American" Soviet Union Nazis


I belong to Jesus. Kill me today. I don't care.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15465 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:37 pm to
No
Posted by gatorhead1013
Braves Country
Member since Dec 2010
512 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:17 pm to
Of course...I'm not a frickin' rube
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:38 am to
Nurse that will NOT be getting it.


Thankfully I work in Georgia where they cannot require it. They can't even ask if I've had it.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:05 am to
Why not?
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:06 am to
Because I'm not a human guinea pig and trials have not been nearly extensive enough in length of time to truly determine detrimental side effects.
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