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A 'spooky' effect of physics has been photographed for the first time

Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:53 am
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:53 am
Einstein had a lot of trouble accepting this phenomenon.



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The black-and-white photo above isn't much to look at. However, the ghostly, eye-like shapes illustrate a strange phenomenon that rattled Albert Einstein so much that he died disbelieving it could exist.

The picture represents the first photograph of quantum entanglement, or the "spooky" pairing of particles.

“The image we've managed to capture is an elegant demonstration of a fundamental property of nature, seen for the very first time in the form of an image," Paul-Antoine Moreau, a physicist at the University of Glasgow, said in a press release.


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Quantum entanglement 101

Quantum entanglement is the now well-documented idea that two tiny particles can be paired and separated, yet remain intimately and instantly connected across vast distances.

By the laws of physics, two particles can get entangled with a binary, yes-or-no-like property or state, such as spin or phase polarization. But that state remains fuzzy - or in "superposition" - until one particle is measured. Then at the exact moment of observation, even if the particles are separated by light-years of space, the other particle takes on the opposite state of its twin.

To understand this concept, imagine each entangled particle were a box containing a cat. The cat inside would be both alive and dead at the same time - that is, until someone opened one of the boxes. If the cat seen in one box was alive, then the cat in the other box would have to be dead (or vice versa).

Einstein thought this teleportation-like effect was so absurd that he described it as "spooky action at a distance."

“Einstein couldn't accept this," J.C. Séamus Davis, a physicist at Cornell University who studies quantum mechanics, previously told Business Insider. "He essentially went to his grave not accepting this as fact, but it's now been shown millions of times to work."


This is my favorite subject in physics. I think when we understand entanglement, a completely different view of reality will emerge. Our senses have always been the methods of our knowledge of reality until now. Quantum physics is so counter-intuitive to what we see, however, that we have to rely upon math and the “senses” of machines to understand it.
Posted by Hidden Tiger
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:20 am to
I think the idea of conscious powers are really difficult for people who are overly math-literal and science-focused to grasp on intuitive levels, which is why results like this are astonishing to you.

Posted by Hidden Tiger
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:24 am to
It should also make you question if transhumanism is the great idea you think it is, but I doubt it - you can't wait for your robot body so you no longer feel ashamed of your human self.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:27 am to
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I think the idea of conscious powers are really difficult for people who are overly math-literal and science-focused to grasp on intuitive levels, which is why results like this are astonishing to you.


To each his own.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:07 pm to
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Hidden Tiger



This place just wasn't the same during your absence.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:27 pm to
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Quantum entanglement is the now well-documented idea that two tiny particles can be paired and separated, yet remain intimately and instantly connected across vast distances.


Proof long distance relationships can work


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To understand this concept, imagine each entangled particle were a box containing a cat. The cat inside would be both alive and dead at the same time - that is, until someone opened one of the boxes. If the cat seen in one box was alive, then the cat in the other box would have to be dead (or vice versa).


Posted by Trumansfangs
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:09 pm to
Great stuff friend. Thanks for posting it.
Posted by Commander Data
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 5:46 pm to
So we can teleport particles in a sense.
Posted by Commander Data
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 6:08 pm to
I find quantum physics spooky in general.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 6:25 pm to
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So we can teleport particles in a sense.


Well, we can affect the state of particles. What we can do is send info instantly anywhere between two sources, no matter how far apart they are. Whlle it’s said that no constructed info can be sent this way, we can certainly use the toggling of these particles to construct info between them. Kind of like the old Morris code machines of frontier days.

That’s very rudimentary, of course, but the future is wide open to the possibility of using this phenomenon in instant complex communications with spaceships and colonies on other worlds.
Posted by Hidden Tiger
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:44 pm to
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So we can teleport particles in a sense.



Our consciousness can influence reality on a physical and metaphysical level.

The nerds need math and pictures like this to get it.

Similar deal in baseball, while there's some value to analytics, especially in terms of organizing info and collecting data for efficiency purposes - much of what those algorithms intend to quantify can be felt/seen in the hearts and minds of people who truly get it naturally.

Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:47 pm to
The quantum world’s physics are strange indeed. While we can use these strange phenomena, no one understands how they work. Kind of like gravity. We know what it does but we don’t know what it is.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:59 pm to
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Our consciousness can influence reality on a physical and metaphysical level.


Nah.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:05 pm to
Like an Ansible device?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:38 pm to
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An ansible is a category of fictional device or technology capable of near-instantaneous or superluminal communication. It can send and receive messages to and from a corresponding device over any distance or obstacle whatsoever with no delay, even between star systems. As a name for such a device, the word "ansible" first appeared in a 1966 novel by Ursula K. Le Guin. Since that time, the term has been broadly used in the works of numerous science fiction authors, across a variety of settings and continuities.


Yes, science fiction often foretells science fact.
Posted by Hidden Tiger
Member since Jun 2019
1111 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:06 am to
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Our consciousness can influence reality on a physical and metaphysical level.


Nah.


That's like pretty much what your OP is saying.

This shite goes back to the 1930s at least, with your boy Eugene Wigner - the link between consciousness and quantum mechanics is real.

Not to mention it's like just common sense, at least on my operating system. I know you're running on inferior tech, so maybe this stuff isn't 'just-there' for you like it is for me.

Since it's not, you can just google 'consciousness influences reality' and you'll find things your system hasn't been updated on yet.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
25563 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:42 am to
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What we can do is send info instantly anywhere between two sources


Not really. This is the non-issue that comes up with each generation of quantum entanglement testing. Eisenstein's issue was that the passing of information instantly between two particles would break the special law of relativity. This was a problem with applying classical mechanics. From quantum mechanics, we have the idea of quantum nonlocality which helps explain the phenomenon. The issue with teleportation or instant communication across distances always comes up when quantum entanglement comes to the public eye goes back to the fact that due to the effects of the uncertainty principle, the mere act of observing the properties of particles at a quantum level (spin, charge, etc), disturbs the quantum system irrevocably, and this would appear to prevent us from using this system as a means of instantaneous communication or teleportation. But there is Zeilinger's work...


Anyone interested in quantum physics for the layman but not Dummy level should read Ball's book beyond Weird.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:48 am to
You should do a TED Talk. No one else knows so much about consciousness.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:49 am to
That entangled particles can be toggled between two states is a way of transmitting information.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:06 am to
God created something from nothing so I guess anything is possible.
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