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re: A 'spooky' effect of physics has been photographed for the first time
Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:36 am to Mud_Till_May
Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:36 am to Mud_Till_May
Even the possibility that something created God from nothing, I suppose. If anything is possible.
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:00 pm to Kentucker
“Einstein couldn't accept this,"
Way way way over my head. But interesting
Way way way over my head. But interesting
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:32 pm to Hidden Tiger
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Our consciousness can influence reality on a physical and metaphysical level.
What you're describing is The Force.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:36 pm to Kentucker
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possibility that something created God from nothing, I
God was not created. He just is, was and will be. He isn't confined to space or time. He exists outside of the laws of physics as we know it. Everywhere I look, I see the finger print of the Lord.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:56 pm to Commander Data
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God was not created.
Maybe, maybe not.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:37 pm to Hidden Tiger
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Our consciousness can influence reality on a physical and metaphysical level.
Just think that gravity doesn't exist and it will cease to.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:42 pm to Commander Data
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He exists outside of the laws of physics as we know it.
Quantum mechanics is outside the laws of physics as we know it, too.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 4:14 pm to Nicky Parrish
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Way way way over my head.
You and the rest of humanity. It is one of the greatest challenges we face as an intelligent species. Every discovery we make about the quantum world seems to just add to our collective frustration rather than explain much. It’s a weird world.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:57 am to Kentucker
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Yes, science fiction often foretells science fact.
I often wonder if Arthur C. Clarke was a time traveler.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:34 pm to wareaglepete
Me, too. I’ve read all of his works and they seem to definitely predict the future as it may become.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:34 am to Kentucker
This is strictly with regard to sub atomic particles, microscopic, or what? Is this only particles of light?
What the frick exactly is “information” at the levels of analysis we are considering here? Just measurements of density, weight, volume, speed, position, etc?
Is that really “information” like we think of it in a day to day sense? And even if it was, just because particles can do this doesn’t mean we’ll EVER have the capability to harness such a attribute in a practical manner for modern society, right?
I mean, when I think of transmitting information I don’t think of it as the actual data / measurements themselves, I essentially think of something being delivered somewhere else.
What purpose does this serve the universe?
People before me have brought up this as evidence of a higher power ... if that’s the case what exactly are we observing when we see this?
Are those Gods eyes? (That’s a joke)
Why did I get a liberal arts degree?
Are my questions making sense?
What the frick exactly is “information” at the levels of analysis we are considering here? Just measurements of density, weight, volume, speed, position, etc?
Is that really “information” like we think of it in a day to day sense? And even if it was, just because particles can do this doesn’t mean we’ll EVER have the capability to harness such a attribute in a practical manner for modern society, right?
I mean, when I think of transmitting information I don’t think of it as the actual data / measurements themselves, I essentially think of something being delivered somewhere else.
What purpose does this serve the universe?
People before me have brought up this as evidence of a higher power ... if that’s the case what exactly are we observing when we see this?
Are those Gods eyes? (That’s a joke)
Why did I get a liberal arts degree?
Are my questions making sense?
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:13 pm to Manzielathon
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This is strictly with regard to sub atomic particles, microscopic, or what? Is this only particles of light?
Any particles can be entangled but photons have been the particles of choice for experiments.
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What the frick exactly is “information” at the levels of analysis we are considering here? Just measurements of density, weight, volume, speed, position, etc?
Information is anything that makes up something else in this context. When discussing entangled particles, “spin” is usually the subject info.
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Is that really “information” like we think of it in a day to day sense? And even if it was, just because particles can do this doesn’t mean we’ll EVER have the capability to harness such a attribute in a practical manner for modern society, right?
First question: No. We’re just beginning to broadly apply quantum mechanics in our day to day functions, so, no, it isn’t something the lay public even considers.
Second question: Absolutely we will. With the aid of A.I., we’ll be able to apply quantum mechanics to many aspects of our lives.
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What purpose does this serve the universe?
We are an integral part of the Universe. It will us a broader understanding of what we are and how we can interact with the rest of the Universe.
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People before me have brought up this as evidence of a higher power ... if that’s the case what exactly are we observing when we see this?
“Higher power” is an unscientific and nebulous term. It’s meaningless in research.
What are we observing? Earth shaking detail of our existence.
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Are those Gods eyes?
Personally, they look more like pursed lips to me.
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Why did I get a liberal arts degree?
The first two years of traditional college are meant to give the student a broad sample of knowledge before he then picks a specialty. Since high school does the same thing I regard this as being unnecessary and a waste of valuable education time and effort.
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Are my questions making sense?
Yes. Are my answers making sense? We have to remember that humanity is going down a very deep rabbit hole (defined here as a bizarre, confusing, or nonsensical situation or environment, typically one from which it is difficult to extricate oneself) regarding the quantum world. Questions and answers are likely to be bizarre because we’re not dealing with a situation that our senses can provide a conventional view for us.
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 5:30 pm to Kentucker
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This is my favorite subject in physics. I think when we understand entanglement, a completely different view of reality will emerge. Our senses have always been the methods of our knowledge of reality until now. Quantum physics is so counter-intuitive to what we see, however, that we have to rely upon math and the “senses” of machines to understand it.
The reality of quantum entanglement would in some respects support the belief of a omnipresent Creator/intelligence, who literally exists outside the constraints of time and space.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 5:41 pm to Bass Tiger
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reality of quantum entanglement would in some respects support the belief of a omnipresent Creator/intelligence, who literally exists outside the constraints of time and space.
Millions of people knew this well before quantum entanglement was discovered. Of course there is a creator and he isn't bound by this physical world/spacetime. Anyone that understands biology to the degree of how individual cells are programmed should know it wasn't a happenstance of us getting lucky. Or how so many physical laws just so happen to be perfectly formed so that stars and planets exist let alone life being present on at least one of those planets. Change the strong nuclear force just a little and see what happens. Make gravity stronger or weaker by just a little and matter as we know it drastically changes against our favor. It takes more faith to believe this all happened by chance imo.
ETA that I appreciate your post and agree with it. I just used yours for my follow up. Also bracing myself for an atheist who is much smarter than I am to come and save me from my God.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 7/22/19 at 6:21 pm to Commander Data
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ppened by chance imo. ETA that I appreciate your post and agree with it. I just used yours for my follow up. Also bracing myself for an atheist who is much smarter than I am to come belittle me and save me from my God.
No formal university education in the field of physics, chemistry, mathematics, etc. but I still find those aforementioned fields of study interesting. My favorite scientist currently is Dr. James Tour, he’s a messianic Jew that is a highly regarded scientist. He’s an organic chemist and has a lot of patents in the field of nanotechnology. Dr. Tour is challenging all the atheist/agnostic chemists and biologists who claim they know life came from a series of random events in a prebiotic environment to prove it.
He’s so confident they can’t do it he’s decided to skip the prebiotic part and he’ll give them the nucleic acids, lipids, simple carbohydrates and proteins...those are the most basic ingredients of a single cell organism. Dr Tour knows that the creation of life is far beyond our comprehension and the chance of a non organic environment randomly creating the necessary organic ingredients for life and then those ingredients making an intelligent decision to join together at a molecular level to create sustainable life is preposterous.
Life coming from nothing is far more preposterous than Genesis. The Creator answers the question about the origins of our existence in Exodus when he tells Moses......... “I AM”. In other words, God has always been. The universe and our existence is an expression of the Creators awesome power, as Holy images of God we have been given knowledge in our being that there is an Almighty God and He undeniably exists.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 6:33 pm to Bass Tiger
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there is an Almighty God and He undeniably exists.
Yes he does. Amen.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 6:34 pm to Bass Tiger
There is quite literally no evidence “the Exodus” ever took place.
And there would be, if it did.
And there would be, if it did.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 6:48 pm to Manzielathon
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There is quite literally no evidence “the Exodus” ever took place. And there would be, if it did.
I’ll take the printed Word in my Bible over your post. You missed the most important aspect of my post....Dr. James Tour is challenging all scientists who believe life came from a non organic (prebiotic) environment to prove it. So far, no takers. Lol!
Dr. Tour is a Christian but he’s not using his vast knowledge to prove the God of the Holy Bible created all.
What he’s saying is, he can give these anti intelligent design scientists all the ingredients that supposedly randomly occurred in a prebiotic environment, to use in a CONTROLLED laboratory environment and they can’t make the most simple form of life.....but we’re to believe everything that life requires decided to get together and “hey, why don’t we mindless non organic materials make something really complex that will stymie the greatest minds on planet Earth in a few billion years.”
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:09 pm to Bass Tiger
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they can’t make the most simple form of life.....but we’re to believe everything that life requires decided to get together and “hey, why don’t we mindless non organic materials make something really complex that will stymie the greatest minds on planet Earth in a few billion years.”
There is no simple form of life. Life, in every form it exists represents the most complex chemical interactions in nature.
Chemical reactions and interactions occur everywhere elements are deposited when they’re created within stars and then ejected into space as the stars go nova. Given enough time and the right circumstances (a diverse mix of elements and a stable environment) it’s logical that chemical reactions and interactions could produce extremely complex products, all the way up to life.
In fact, in ideal environments such as our earth those reactions and interactions can even become self-guided when they produce life that is so complex that it becomes independent from the randomness of nature. In the case of our world, we humans are the current pinnacle of the amazing complexity of life and will go on to create an even more incredible species, artificial intelligence, or A.I.
A.I. will become the first species ever to be unquestionably created by intelligent design.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:28 pm to Kentucker
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Given enough time and the right circumstances (a diverse mix of elements and a stable environment) it’s logical that chemical reactions and interactions could produce extremely complex products, all the way up to life.
Interestingly, according to Dr Tour, time is generally an impediment to life spontaneously forming from the basic ingredients of life. Those basic ingredients, proteins, lipids, carbohydrates and nucleic acid can be easily destroyed once they become involved in a chemical reaction by a process known as “caramelization”. If an environment existed for a period of time to allow prebiotic materials to somehow form
molecules of nucleic acids, lipids, carbohydrates and proteins it would have been a very stable environment.
It’s why any organic chemist has to carefully monitor any chemical reactions taking place and stop the process at the appropriate time or the yields of the desired chemical reaction can be compromised or destroyed.
If you want to hear it from the man himself go watch one of Dr. James Tour’s presentations. Dr Tour is very thorough in his technical explanation of why a primordial environment is not conducive for spontaneously producing life forms, you mentioned the main issue, stable environment. You’ll also find no other renowned organic chemists or biologists are refuting any of Dr Tour’s assertions. Just the chance that some molecules decided to connect themselves together and then create some way to replicate themselves with the ingenious creation of DNA to ensure the life form would be faithfully reproduced is ......uhhh yeah.
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