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re: 2016 Presidential Election: Trump vs Clinton
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:37 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:37 pm to OMLandshark
all you do on here is insult me. then you act like a victim if i fire back. get down off the cross.
why u so worked up about Cruz, he's not our nominee. so irrational
graham ended up apologizing to Cruz and then supporting him for president. lol you conveiently leave that out b/c you have talking points.
this topic is about the presidential race.
why u so worked up about Cruz, he's not our nominee. so irrational
graham ended up apologizing to Cruz and then supporting him for president. lol you conveiently leave that out b/c you have talking points.
this topic is about the presidential race.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 11:39 pm
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:38 pm to Tillman
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all you do on here is insult me. then you act like a victim if i fire back. get down off the cross.
Because your comebacks are retarded.
"Oh, he went to Ole Miss" is a comeback a 3 year old could come up with.
What's next? "I know you are but what am I?"
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:40 pm to OMLandshark
ok
i have a feeling you are drunk. why rambling on about Cruz who is not even the nominee. i doubt he would have won because don't think a devout Christian could win election in this country now, the country has shifted so far to the left. we'd elect a criminal like HIllary who lied about sniper fire in Bosnia over a devout Christian Ned Flanders type like El Cruz. lol
you say he has been ineffective in the senate yet you biatching about him on here. lol then u say i'm dumb. here's the good news, u will never see me biatch about Democrats in the senate that i think are ineffective. lol
i have a feeling you are drunk. why rambling on about Cruz who is not even the nominee. i doubt he would have won because don't think a devout Christian could win election in this country now, the country has shifted so far to the left. we'd elect a criminal like HIllary who lied about sniper fire in Bosnia over a devout Christian Ned Flanders type like El Cruz. lol
you say he has been ineffective in the senate yet you biatching about him on here. lol then u say i'm dumb. here's the good news, u will never see me biatch about Democrats in the senate that i think are ineffective. lol
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:40 am to Tillman
He was wrong about Trump getting the nomination, but he owned up to it and even linked back to the articles he wrote about Trump when he said he was wrong which is more than I can say about most Rantards. He also changed his conclusion when the data changed instead of sticking to his "anti-Trump" guns, as some may put it.
So, let's look at the facts concerning the states you listed going red.
Wisconsin: Clinton has a very confortable 8% point lead in the polls there. 0 polls have Trump ahead of Clinton in October. Only the Ipsos poll in August had Trump ahead and it's since bounced to Clinton. Out of 60 total polls, only 5 resulted in Trump ahead at any point.
Nevada: NV is closer than WI, but Clinton still has a comfortable 4% cushion there. 1 poll currently has Trump ahead by 3 points. The other 8 polls have Clinton ahead by an average of 6 percentage points.
Arizona: A much closer race that has flipped a few times throughout the campaign year. Current polls are essentially a tie, so a Trump win here is definitely on the table, but the fact that it's so competitive in AZ should clue you in to the larger picture.
Colorado: When averaging the polls, Trump has never led in Colorado this race. Clinton currently has almost a 10-point lead on average in the polls. Out of 55 total polls, I found 8 polls in that had Trump ahead. Colorado is basically a gimme for Clinton if she doesn't do anything drastic.
Virginia: Clinton has almost a double-digit lead in the polls here too. Virginia is more in the bag for Clinton than Colorado. Of the last 32 polls, only one had Trump ahead and that was in July before the RNC/DNC. It hasn't been close since.
Florida: FL is more pro-Clinton than Arizona, but less than CO or VA. It's certainly not in the bag for Clinton, but she has a decent lead in most polls. In the last 33 polls, Trump's been ahead or tied 5 times. Still, a good chance GOP can campaign on the ground to make it a close game, but it's not nearly as close as the last two elections right now.
North Carolina: NC looks about like AZ right now. Clinton has a comfortable lead of 3%, but that could change in the next tho weeks. She still has the clear lead in NC though; it's hers to lose right now. In the last ten polls, Trump's been ahead once.
Ohio: Clearly a swing state, Clinton is only ahead by about 0.3%. Ohio could certainly go either way, and the polling shows it. Trump is ahead is 4 polls, Clinton in 3, and they are tied in 2.
New Hampshire: More pro-Clinton than NC, NH has only had 3 polls with Trump ahead out of 71. She has a comfortable 8% lead there currently.
Iowa: Another true swing state, Clinton is ahead by 0.1% currently. In the last five polls, Trump is ahead in 3 of them, Clinton 2. Could go either way.
Pennsylvania: Closer to the NH polls, Clinton has a comfortable 7% point gap. Out of the 83 polls in PA, only 9 polls have Trump ahead. No way PA goes red.
Out of those states, you can only truly give Trump at a maximum Ohio, Iowa, Arizona. Now, This could change in the last week or so, but Trump's path is not in any way easy.
You can check out the various paths to the presidency here: LINK
So, let's look at the facts concerning the states you listed going red.
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i have WI, NV, AZ, CO, VA, FL, NC, OH, NH, IA, PA going red. i think he may win Maine too which has a GOP govneor that was strong trump supporter. i wouldn't be surprised if he won MI and/or MN.
Wisconsin: Clinton has a very confortable 8% point lead in the polls there. 0 polls have Trump ahead of Clinton in October. Only the Ipsos poll in August had Trump ahead and it's since bounced to Clinton. Out of 60 total polls, only 5 resulted in Trump ahead at any point.
Nevada: NV is closer than WI, but Clinton still has a comfortable 4% cushion there. 1 poll currently has Trump ahead by 3 points. The other 8 polls have Clinton ahead by an average of 6 percentage points.
Arizona: A much closer race that has flipped a few times throughout the campaign year. Current polls are essentially a tie, so a Trump win here is definitely on the table, but the fact that it's so competitive in AZ should clue you in to the larger picture.
Colorado: When averaging the polls, Trump has never led in Colorado this race. Clinton currently has almost a 10-point lead on average in the polls. Out of 55 total polls, I found 8 polls in that had Trump ahead. Colorado is basically a gimme for Clinton if she doesn't do anything drastic.
Virginia: Clinton has almost a double-digit lead in the polls here too. Virginia is more in the bag for Clinton than Colorado. Of the last 32 polls, only one had Trump ahead and that was in July before the RNC/DNC. It hasn't been close since.
Florida: FL is more pro-Clinton than Arizona, but less than CO or VA. It's certainly not in the bag for Clinton, but she has a decent lead in most polls. In the last 33 polls, Trump's been ahead or tied 5 times. Still, a good chance GOP can campaign on the ground to make it a close game, but it's not nearly as close as the last two elections right now.
North Carolina: NC looks about like AZ right now. Clinton has a comfortable lead of 3%, but that could change in the next tho weeks. She still has the clear lead in NC though; it's hers to lose right now. In the last ten polls, Trump's been ahead once.
Ohio: Clearly a swing state, Clinton is only ahead by about 0.3%. Ohio could certainly go either way, and the polling shows it. Trump is ahead is 4 polls, Clinton in 3, and they are tied in 2.
New Hampshire: More pro-Clinton than NC, NH has only had 3 polls with Trump ahead out of 71. She has a comfortable 8% lead there currently.
Iowa: Another true swing state, Clinton is ahead by 0.1% currently. In the last five polls, Trump is ahead in 3 of them, Clinton 2. Could go either way.
Pennsylvania: Closer to the NH polls, Clinton has a comfortable 7% point gap. Out of the 83 polls in PA, only 9 polls have Trump ahead. No way PA goes red.
Out of those states, you can only truly give Trump at a maximum Ohio, Iowa, Arizona. Now, This could change in the last week or so, but Trump's path is not in any way easy.
You can check out the various paths to the presidency here: LINK
Posted on 10/26/16 at 5:43 am to BarkRuffalo
Link from the NY Times, no thanks.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 5:51 am to Tillman
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because don't think a devout Christian could win election
Didn't realize George W Bush lost his two presidential elections
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:10 am to bigDgator
It's just a map, there's no commentary. Graphically, it's a good interactive that has all of those states mentioned on paper to show the various paths. I don't look at their election forecast because they've had Clinton as a shoe-in since before she clenched the nomination. Do you know of another one?
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 6:20 am
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:26 am to BarkRuffalo
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don't look at their election forecast because they've had Clinton as a shoe-in since before she clenched the nomination
To be fair, she has run a pretty shite campaign and looks to win comfortably
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:31 am to GenesChin
I don't disagree, but I think it was closer a certain points. Not that it matters now
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:53 am to Tillman
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:00 am to BarkRuffalo
No, and it actually looks very well done, but the MSM always has a great presentation. I just don't believe anything they produce. Anything.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:06 am to Tillman
quote:A Christian could win as long as they don't make it a focal point of their campaign. Your religion doesn't matter unless you make decisions based on it or if you're a Scientologist or something similar.
. i doubt he would have won because don't think a devout Christian could win election in this country now,
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 8:04 am
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:09 am to Tillman
quote:Morality has nothing to do with it. Everyone has different morals.
i never saw any of you liberals actually give a moral and logical defense of it.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:12 am to bigDgator
Well... you're dedicated and consistent at least!
Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:34 am to pvilleguru
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A Christian could win as long as they don't make it a focal point of their campaign
A good, morale idea is self evident, it doesn't need to be buoyed by religion. If you can only justify its merits by pointing to religion, it probably isn't a great idea. That is called extremism, we are currently fighting it in the Middle East with Islamic extremist.
The separation of church and state is there for good reason
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 9:36 am
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:00 pm to BarkRuffalo
i don't care about polls but there are state polls with Trump up in Florida, Ohio, NC, and only down 3 in PA.
my gut tells me trump wins. he's got the energy. and the media seems really angry which doesn't make sense if they truly believe dyin' hillary is coasting to an easy win.
my gut tells me trump wins. he's got the energy. and the media seems really angry which doesn't make sense if they truly believe dyin' hillary is coasting to an easy win.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:01 pm to GenesChin
what leftwingers like you do is say things thave have nothing to do with religion, like abortion, are only about religion.
give your party's and president's refusal to even say radical islamic terrorism, it was oddd you brought it up. Hillary has taken a ton of money from Islamic states that are tough on women and gays.
give your party's and president's refusal to even say radical islamic terrorism, it was oddd you brought it up. Hillary has taken a ton of money from Islamic states that are tough on women and gays.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:03 pm to pvilleguru
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Morality has nothing to do with it. Everyone has different morals.
ok so do you say this regarding rape, theft etc?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:05 pm to Sanfordhog
the reality liberals don't care if the unborn baby is alive or not. they will support it regardless.
most liberals know nothing about science.
most liberals know nothing about science.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:25 pm to Tillman
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