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re: 2016 Presidential Election: Trump vs Clinton

Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:27 pm to
Is that moron who thought that Ted Cruz was a good candidate and that everyone hated him was simply a conspiracy theory still here?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:30 pm to
Not 18 in 2004 and wrote in Ron Paul 2012.

Posted by Sanfordhog
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:46 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/12/16 at 2:49 pm
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:07 pm to
2004 - Kerry

2008 - Obama

2012 - Johnson

This year? Still haven't decided for sure. I'm not happy with any of them being POTUS. I'm in Missouri though, so it doesn't really matter. Trump will win comfortably here.

Hugo, thanks for posting this info. It's refreshing to see credible information without the Poli Board filter. Have you ever listened to the Keepin' It 1600 podcast? It's got a definite liberal slant - the guys who run it are all former Obama staffers. But it's funny as hell, and a pretty honest look at things. If you haven't checked them out, you can find them on twitter - they're doing 2 podcasts a weeks right now, and they're worth the time. The debate recaps in particular.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:59 pm to
Cruz got a ton of votes, the 2nd most, in a year that saw the most votes ever cast in a GOP primary. but you keep talking about nobody likes him simply because some unlikable politicians like Graham don't like him.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:59 pm to
Real Clear Politics has changed PA to a tossup state now.

let's make America great again.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 11:01 pm to
it is common knowledge that is liberals that have trouble dealing with things. basically every riot is a bunch of dumb liberals.

i'm not going to give up if the witch wins. lol
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 11:02 pm
Posted by KoachKletus
Member since Jan 2015
1102 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 3:18 am to
Go look at RCP again. Clearly shows HRC up in PA by a 4.4 average. Time for you to go root for a winner and dump the dunce act.
Posted by KoachKletus
Member since Jan 2015
1102 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 3:22 am to
I don't support abortions. I support a woman's right to choose. Whereas you support a walking POS that thinks it's his right to walk up to woman and grab them in any manner "it" wants to. Do you have a daughter? A mother? Niece?
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Care to share who both of you voted for in 2004 and 2012?


I voted Bush in 2008 and Johnson in 2012. She voted Bush in 2004 and Romney in 2012.
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

it is common knowledge that is liberals that have trouble dealing with things. basically every riot is a bunch of dumb liberals.


No they aren't. They're criminals who couldn't tell you the most simple platforms of any candidate.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:44 pm to
My Presidential voting history...


1992 - Bush
1996 - Clinton
2000 - Bush
2004 - Bush(ugh, my biggest voting regret, not that it would have mattered in Alabama)
2008 - didn't vote. Dealing with job change and new baby and didn't feel informed enough.
2012 - Obama

2016 - Hillary
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:36 pm to
Thanks!

No, never listened but I'll check out the keepin' it 1600 podcast
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

I voted Bush in 2008

Da frick?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:49 pm to

Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

No, never listened but I'll check out the keepin' it 1600 podcast

Here's a link. They're pretty funny. Since they aren't "journalists" they don't try to hide that they have a liberal bias, so you know what you're getting. They're all former Obama staffers - a media spokesman, 2 speechwriters. I think you'd be entertained if nothing else. Once a week or so they do a live session that's like comedy hour.

Keepin' It 1600
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 3:07 pm to
I am so fed up with our political party BS that I don't see a reason to vote in anything not local going forward. There are no good options and I'd rather sit out

Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:26 pm to
Sweet... I listened to some, not bad. I'll give it a whirl on one of my long drives.

Thanks for the link
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:36 pm to
Pretty good article from a republican woman who feels the party has abandoned her.


quote:

I was first drawn to the Republican Party as an 18-year-old at a liberal university. The party’s appeal wasn’t about barring Muslims, arming our enemies with nuclear weapons or joking about sexual assault. I didn’t become a conservative because someone told me to hate liberals, or to blame people who didn’t look like me for my problems.
I became a conservative because of words like “self-reliance” and “individualism,” because it actually seemed the more optimistic philosophy. Conservatism measured compassion by how much you gave, not by how much you told other people to give. Conservatism believed that individuals, not bureaucracies, produced the best solutions. And conservatism saw American democracy as a beacon of hope to share with the world’s oppressed, not something to apologize for.
Now that I’m a mother, those ideals matter more to me than ever. In the era of Donald Trump, it’s hard to argue to the women of America that the Republican Party deserves their vote this year. But we must return to our aspirational roots if we’re going to have a party left at all.



https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/opinion/the-lonely-life-of-a-republican-woman.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=0&referer=https://www.shaggytexas.com/board/showthread.php/166943-Donald-Trump-2016?p=10200950

Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:32 pm to
Someone famous (I think a former British Prime Minister, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now) once said something to this effect: "If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no soul; if you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no mind." Disraeli maybe?

I don't know. I know I'm growing more conservative as I get older for sure. Actually more libertarian. The thing is in this election...I think HRC may actually be more conservative on some things than trump. He's a con man, a charlatan. He will say whatever he thinks people want to hear as long as it helps him. He's all about himself first, and screw everyone else. Clinton is corrupt, and I don't like her. BUT, I think she is more center left than progressive. There isn't a conservative candidate running, except maybe McMullin. I know I won't vote for Trump, I can't stand him and would be afraid and completely embarrassed for him to be the POTUS. But I still don't know who I will vote for.
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