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Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:04 pm to AmishSamurai
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:04 pm to AmishSamurai
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some of it is the playcalling
I haven't felt like Moore has "been in his bag" at any point in the first 4 games. His play calling when the field is short is predictable and teams are ready for it.
Cook looked like he was avoiding contact last night. Those designed QB runs were a waste. He had a handful of passing attempts were he would have been better taking off and moving the chains instead of checking down late. He threw Burden out of bounds when he had 15 yds of open field.
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Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:42 pm to everytrueson
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Pyne should get a series or two to “stay sharp.”
That’s how I’d be framing it. Let the chips fall where they may.
Not in a close game. You do not want to mess up the chemistry. Let him play out this season. Mizzou isn't going to win a championship with this roster. I believe it will be a year or 2 away when a better quarterback and more 4* players are playing and getting good backups and depth. I believe Drinkwitz didn't fully use the playbook just yet. It does look blah from start to end. Why give away new plays when it isn't needed. Don't be surprised if the Texas A&M game will be Cook's better game and the offense being a lot better. It is what Drink does when he can hide the playbook for tougher teams.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 8:49 pm to TrueLefty
My only issue with folks saying we were holding back the playbook is that a loss to Vandy at home would have been catastrophic for our playoff chances and the game was tight the whole way. IF the coaching staff was still holding, that was beyond stupid and I hold them in higher regard than that.
Back to the original conversation, it’s not in Drink’s DNA to demote the starting QB especially while the team is undefeated. He’s dug in (remember last season with “you don’t boo the starting quarterback”) and the only way Pyne sees time is against Massachusetts or if Cook gets injured. I agree that Brady isn’t the confident leader we saw in the 2nd half of 2023 for whatever reason. Really hope he gets it right because we need a sharp QB to take advantage of our talents and maximize this season.
Back to the original conversation, it’s not in Drink’s DNA to demote the starting QB especially while the team is undefeated. He’s dug in (remember last season with “you don’t boo the starting quarterback”) and the only way Pyne sees time is against Massachusetts or if Cook gets injured. I agree that Brady isn’t the confident leader we saw in the 2nd half of 2023 for whatever reason. Really hope he gets it right because we need a sharp QB to take advantage of our talents and maximize this season.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 8:56 pm to TrueLefty
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You do not want to mess up the chemistry. Let him play out this season. Mizzou isn't going to win a championship with this roster.
1. There is not much chemistry on offense. Which is why we are having this conversation
2. You are absolutely wrong. This roster has more than enough talent to make a playoff run.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:19 am to everytrueson
We all saw what Brady could do last year. Last Saturday he made some good throws and some bad throws. He had some QB runs where he was stuffed from the start. It is up to the coaches to figure out why and make adjustments.
Bernie Miklasz, the St Louis media person, has a you tube channel now. He thinks that what worked offensively in 2023 may not work in 2024 because defenses "have our number" now. That is another matter up to the coaches to account for and make adjustments.
If Bernie is right then some of the plays where Brady looked hesitant where really him being surprised at what worked in 2023 does not work now - then hesitating.
I wonder if some of the Vanderbilt defensive injuries were really flops so their staff would have a chance to check their spreadsheets and be well prepared for what we we do percentage wise in certain situations.
Bernie's youtube video link.
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Bernie Miklasz, the St Louis media person, has a you tube channel now. He thinks that what worked offensively in 2023 may not work in 2024 because defenses "have our number" now. That is another matter up to the coaches to account for and make adjustments.
If Bernie is right then some of the plays where Brady looked hesitant where really him being surprised at what worked in 2023 does not work now - then hesitating.
I wonder if some of the Vanderbilt defensive injuries were really flops so their staff would have a chance to check their spreadsheets and be well prepared for what we we do percentage wise in certain situations.
Bernie's youtube video link.
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:42 am to AmishSamurai
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The reality ...
is most everyone was shitting on him early last year and then the same people were praising everything he did.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:53 pm to IlliniBuck
The injuries were ridiculous. yet they never seemed to need to leave the game for any significant time.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:55 am to trader_tiger83
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we were holding back the playbook
If anything they are expanding the playbook, at least in the run game. Stretch is what the offense is built around but they are starting to run split zone and Duo(Noel's big run) much earlier this season. The run blocking is definitely ahead of the pass blocking right now, but I don't think the pass pro is as questionable as some want to believe. Some pressures off the edge are happening but the middle of the line has held up well all season long.
Burden is the primary read and teams know what concepts Moore likes at every point on the field and they are doing their best to take it away. The winning cues are either there or they aren't and Cook has to come off that read faster. He doesn't have the arm to be late. The All 22 view of the games lets you see Cook's head angle vs the coverage and he is really trying to get Burden the ball by throwing into the teeth of it. Teams are running a bunch of combo coverage and he could punish the zone on the other side of the field if he would stop waiting to Burden to beat bracketed coverage.
I am also wondering how much the helmet comms are impacting the offense right now. Cook has looked overwhelmed by it all season long. It is one of the biggest adjustments for college QBs going to the NFL. Hopefully they make some changes over the next few days because Kyle Field isn't the place to have communication issues.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 8:26 am
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:13 am to navynuke
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helmet comms
This right here is what I've been thinking. Cook looks a bit lost, can't read the D, keeps looking to the sideline with under 15 seconds left, and doesn't seem ready for the play when the ball is snapped.
It may be too much information for him to process on the field, or it is giving him confidence issues, or confusing him or something. But, I do think this is a big contributor to his presence on the field.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:28 am to Wtodd
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is most everyone was shitting on him early last year and then the same people were praising everything he did.
WTF is this supposed to mean? Are you implying those people changed? Or was it Brady who changed and went from being crap to being pretty darn good?
He deserved criticism to start the year and he deserved praise as the year went on. Only an idiot would think if you criticized him you can only criticize him forever moving forward or vice versa with praise.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:18 am to notsince98
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WTF is this supposed to mean?
It means he's the same BC as he was last year when he threw for 3300 yds and everyone loved him. There are people that want to bench him right now just like when the Tank was QB (raises hand on that one) and we all wanted MM. I don't know if BC is hurt, hell he might be but we don't know. The offense is "bad" for many reasons and he's just 1 of them. LB's attitude is absolute shite and most of the players, BC included, are more concerned with their fricking dance routines than just playing football. IMO BC's greatest weakness is his inability to forget and just move on to the next play.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:08 am to deputyfife
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The injuries were ridiculous. yet they never seemed to need to leave the game for any significant time
Yea we were not running a no huddle offense but Vandy was still flopping. I don't want to think too much about what that means for the rest of the season.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:26 pm to surgicalvenom
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Pyne was brought in just in case Cook got injured. He is trusted to run the offense and has experience.
That seems to be the main reason of course. I have a (probably dumb) question. Who is the starting QB next season? Doesn't Pyne have one year of eligibility left?
I have the feeling that Horn, once rehabbed, might be headed for MLB.
I'm assuming Zollers will fully recover from his broken ankle; but likely not ready for SEC competition in his first year.
Is Drink counting on the portal? Am I missing something here?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:13 pm to CelticTiger
All signs seem to point to Horn being done at QB. Hopefully the 5 star kid works out for us.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:29 pm to CelticTiger
Pyne has another year. I assume he takes over. Zoller broke his ankle, but it was one of those football facing the wrong way breaks. He may not be ready next year.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:37 pm to surgicalvenom
I feel like Kirby "opened up" the playbook for Cook and he's basically is now overthinking each play. Slow to go thru reads, slow to realize he has open running lanes, and generally speaking in his own head. They need to go back to the more basic offense where he just feels the game and goes off quick reads and instinct on when to run.
Eli won't pull Cook, ever. Do you realize how bad Connor Bazelak was and Eli trotted him out there on one leg?
Eli won't pull Cook, ever. Do you realize how bad Connor Bazelak was and Eli trotted him out there on one leg?
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:08 pm to BlacknGoldNuts
Connor had Penn St and aTm on the ropes in consecutive games this season.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:37 pm to CelticTiger
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I have the feeling that Horn, once rehabbed, might be headed for MLB.
Based on what? His 4 innings of college ball before TJ? He’s not getting drafted without a full season now. Not high enough to be worth it anyway.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:19 am to GalacticaCannon
What are we thinking for QB in 2025? Any legit transfers that we could scoop up for 1-2 years as a bridge for Zollars if he has a good rehab?
I like Eli Holstein from Pitt. Was originally a Bama recruit that transferred and has put up big stats so far this season. Almost 1,200 yards passing and a 6:1 TD/Int ratio. Plus he’s got dual threat capability with almost 200 yards on the ground that would fit our system with Kirby.
I like Eli Holstein from Pitt. Was originally a Bama recruit that transferred and has put up big stats so far this season. Almost 1,200 yards passing and a 6:1 TD/Int ratio. Plus he’s got dual threat capability with almost 200 yards on the ground that would fit our system with Kirby.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:33 am to GalacticaCannon
Unless by some miracle he goes in the first 4 rounds of MLB draft (his FB does sit upper 90s which makes scouts salivate), Horn will be the starter next season. He's the bridge to Zollers.
I just want playoffs this year with this roster ... next year could be even greater with a different QB and more development in trenches.
I just want playoffs this year with this roster ... next year could be even greater with a different QB and more development in trenches.
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