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re: Sam Horn

Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5845 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

UVA Wake Miami Clemson

Those schools are top 25 baseball schools and would be a good fit.

There are a lot of teams that like to sling it that have Senior QB’s or kids going in the draft.

North Carolina
TCU
Washington
Houston
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:14 pm to
Yes, he was outplayed.

He didn't move the team. He was tentative. Those who are complaining that he "only had 5 passes" are ignoring that, had he moved the chains he would have had the opportunity for more passes.

On the interception he locked onto one receiver, threw his 97 mph fastball behind him and was intercepted.

What nobody wants to mention is on that same play he missed a wide open receiver 30 yards downfield that would have given him the 70 yard touchdown pass that some of our fans think he should throw every time.

Finally, bottom line. He led the team to one score. That's what the game is about. Scoring. Hopefully, more than the opposition.

I'm a Sam Horn fan. I believe he can be great. He wasn't ready to prove that last week.

That doesn't mean he can't overtake Cook and become #1 yet this year.

Anyone who is bitching about this, again, needs to get over it.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 6:15 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111547 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:19 pm to
I’ll get over what I want to get over. And not get over what I don’t want to get over.

Get fricked.
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
2932 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:37 pm to
Drunkpiss is such an egoistical count and he hasn’t earned being egotistical prick in the least bit. His offense is putrid and his QB play dreadful.

This MF has gone through 3 different guys since he got here and won’t give the most physically talented QB a fair shake.

He did his groundwork with NIL and the practice facility, but he can’t win for shite.

I look forward to his long Cooks leash will be this time. Probably as long as the strap on he wants to take from Cook.
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
2932 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:42 pm to
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Ill be shocked if he goes somewhere better. That doesn't happen a ton, especially at our level. If he cant beat Cook after 2 years..


Robinson was our QB before Drunkpiss figured out he was terrible.

He doesn’t know his arse end around the position. Man doesn’t have a clue. I don’t buy Horn isn’t ready. I do buy that Eli doesn’t know how to prep his QBs or put them into positions to succeed and take advantage of their talents.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5368 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:50 pm to
Wait a minute guys. 2 games last year were wins that Drink had no hand in losing. Plus his team played toe to toe with UGA. If he had 8 or 9 wins last year, no one would question him this year.

He brought in someone who fixed the defense. I have to believe Moore can plan an offense to work for Cook.

Do I wish Moore was here 2 years ago to work with Horn, Yes. But I have faith that he can work with Cooks strengths and we win 8 to 9 games.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5845 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:01 pm to
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On the interception he locked onto one receiver, threw his 97 mph fastball behind him and was intercepted.


It was a play drawn up for him to throw to Miller and everyone else was a pawn. Miller stopped the route off about 5 yards to early. Then he started moving to the outside when he was supposed to stay inside.

Miller running the wrong route caused Horn to double clutch and he still threw the ball where only his WR could catch it. Miller knocked the ball in the air and then the INT.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
2665 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:52 pm to
Don't confuse him with facts ... his user name checks out:

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111547 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

I have to believe Moore can plan an offense to work for Cook.


Moore isn’t calling the offense. He certainly didn’t against SDak.

I think Drink will have to get to a back against the wall situation to let Moore call the plays.
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:06 am to
Ooooooh.

Mr. tough guy.

I'm scared.

FU.
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:09 am to
And he missed the wide open receiver downfield which would have been an easy 70 yard touchdown.

He locked onto the receiver.

He threw it behind him.

He blew that play.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5262 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 10:35 am to
"And he missed the wide open receiver downfield which would have been an easy 70 yard touchdown.

He locked onto the receiver.

He threw it behind him.

He blew that play."

Watched the endzone of that multiple times it was a flood right roll out. The deep reciever was the correct route to hit, the flat was covered and the middle route was open. He threw it behind the middle reciever who still should have made the catch (it hit his hands you make the damn catch). His read was not "wrong" his read was not optimal. Since we are castigating him for making the sub optimal read and throw are we doing the same on Cook. He threw twice into double coverage and one extreemly late and high to Wease on a 4rd odwn, which lkead to Meavis; 1st miss. Now do I think Horn should start over Cook? I cannot say that as I am not in practice or QB rooom everyday. Cook obviously has a better grasp of the offense and has the support of the team. He does though lack the arm talent of a top notch SEC QB, that I can see. I am also worried that no mater who walks through the door Drink will stay with Cook another 2 more years. The fact that a QB with his limitations is set to be a 4 year starter should be a problem to any Tiger fan.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 10:45 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111547 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:43 am to
I didn’t challenge you to fisticuffs at Sonic. I simply noted that we can all have our opinions.

When we circle back around at the end of the season, neither of our opinions will make any difference in how the team performs.
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:12 pm to
Thank you for your well-reasoned and insightful response.

I hope that Sam Horn becomes the greatest quarterback in Mizzou history.

My point, which many on here keep ignoring, is that he's not ready to be anointed the GOAT yet.

I'm not a fan of the Cook bashing either. All he's done is give his heart and soul to Mizzou and folks here trash him constantly.

Not a fan of that.

Best case scenario is that Horn gets multiple reps throughout the season and eventually takes the #1 spot from Cook.

M I Z
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 3:02 pm
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:13 pm to
No problem.

The shut the frick up I'll do whatever I want threw me off.

Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5845 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Watched the endzone of that multiple times it was a flood right roll out. The deep reciever was the correct route to hit, the flat was covered and the middle route was open. He threw it behind the middle reciever


There are many different variations of a Flood Rollout this play was similar but not one. Instead of the 3 WR’s on one side they used 2 receivers and a TE in the slot to block. When Peat came out of the backfield the CB that was on Wease took Peat. Wease ran a Go route up the middle angling to the far sideline. Wease’s route took the S out of the middle of the field.

The OLB covered Horn and the MLB had to cover the TE. This leaves the middle of the field wide open. Miller was supposed to run a 10-15 yard route and turn to the middle and because his CB is 3 to 5 yards off he is open.

Horn focused on 1 receiver because that is what the play calls for. He threw it behind him because that is where the ball is supposed to be thrown. He threw it low because Miller ran the wrong route and that is the only place to throw where the CB doesn’t have a play on the ball. Miller’s hands were flat and he tried to catch the ball off his chest which caused the ball to fly up.

Another reason he wouldn’t throw it deep on that play is because he is moving to his right. Horn has a great arm, but throwing across your body in coverage would have been dumb.

Instead of passing Horn could have ran for 2 to 3 yards like Cook does or throw the ball away, but he made the right read and threw it to where only his receiver could catch it.

Bannister has ran similar routes the past few years.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5262 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Wease’s route took the S out of the middle of the field.



He had him beat by 3-4 yards with an open sideline ahead

quote:

Another reason he wouldn’t throw it deep on that play is because he is moving to his right. Horn has a great arm, but throwing across your body in coverage would have been dumb.


Hardley a dumb throw as in rollout routes like this it is common to read it as deep 1st, middle 2nd and flat as the 3rd read. I do though do not think it a bad read to go the middle route to Miller as he was open and he felt more comfortable throwing hat route.
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10186 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:36 pm to
Y’all are dumb as hell calling for Drinks head.

Dumbasses lol
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18011 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Y’all are dumb as hell calling for Drinks head.

Dumbasses lol


Why is that?
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10186 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 5:13 pm to
Guy is locking down the state more than any coach we’ve had. We finally have recruiting momentum and were a couple fluky losses away from having a real good record just a season ago.

He is young. He is still learning. Sure he says shite that’s dumb sometimes but it comes with him being young. We are 1-0 and y’all want to fire him over a QB competition and willing to blow up the momentum we have.

Thank God a lot of you don’t have no say within the athletic dept including myself.(didn’t want Gates and he is the absolute real deal)

This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 5:14 pm
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