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re: I expect BO’s extension to be similar to Campbell

Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:46 am to
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:46 am to
It’s amazing that so many are against Mizzou following the industry standard. In college football coaches in BO’s position contractually get extensions or are fired. He’s getting an extension.

BO is going to win at Mizzou the same way GP did. That’s through great talent evaluation and development. I’m sure he will get a couple 4 stars, but mostly it’s about getting and developing recruits. That’s landing classes between 25-45 every year.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5365 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:59 am to
Ahhhhh...the welfare mentality. Forget individual accomplishment, goals or ambition, just follow the herd. The same herd that bitches about large buyouts when they fire coaches. Not one post of "He earned an extension!" Just give the poor waif a hand up and he will recruit better I promise. What happened to "Give this guy more money because he's just damn good!"

Let's just go all out and put his extension on an Government EBT card and call it good.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:06 am to
It’s ok to give the extension, but not attach a huge buyout to it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:12 am to
Quit imagining conflict over an extension.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5365 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:14 am to
Extensions are added to buyouts. This is why the nubs are still paying Pellini 120k a month and will pay Riley 170k. Extension money is spread out over the life of the extension and can be offset by the salary of the coaches new job, should he get a new job.

This thought that coaches sign extensions with no increase in buyout is false. Ask Notre Dame who gave the fat man an extension after 1 good year and then fired him and paid him for 7 years. Pellini signed an extension and was fired 10 months later, now the nubs will pay 3 coaches. Tennessee backed off Campbell because he was gonna sign an extension which would have made UT pay 9 million to steal him.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:15 am to
quote:

This thought that coaches sign extensions with no increase in buyout is false.


This is probably correct. Sexton wouldn’t negotiate an extension without a buyout increase.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:25 am to
No one has said there wouldn’t be an increase in buyout. Sterk just has to keep it manageable.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Quit imagining conflict over an extension.


Are you not reading this thread?

Several posters are disparaging BO and saying he doesn't need an extension.

Look, he's getting an extension. It's mostly for recruiting purposes whether fans "get" that or not, but we also need to have a bigger asst pool to retain and attract quality asst coaches.

Look at what Luke just got from OM

If Wisconsin loses on Saturday we will have the longest winning streak in the P5. I know some are still itching for BO to fail and are not sold yet. It's almost like they don't pay attention to rest of college football and how tenuous the coaching carousel can be.

The best thing for us is for BO to succeed. We should give him all of the support he needs to do so. That is from administration to fanbase.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5365 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:33 am to
Got it...its ok to pay welfare as long as you keep it manageable. (By the way, that's not how contract extensions work) You sir are ready for a career in Congress.

Let me know when you guys actually think he's "earned" an extension and I'm on board.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:37 am to
He's earned it.

Are you now on board?

Also, I don't know how you've convinced yourself that BO will be receiving a huge increase in buyout but he won't. He'll be receiving more per annum (which will slightly increase his buyout) and more for the asst pool. He'll still be on a show me contract.
Posted by SemperFi
St Louis
Member since Nov 2015
1519 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Several posters are disparaging BO and saying he doesn't need an extension.


It's not disparaging anyone. It's called having an opinion.

Damn this was a good conversation right up to the point when the paid pumps showed up.






Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:39 am to
Good conversation translates to people saying things I want to hear huh?

You're opinion is fine. I have mine.

Good conversations come from challenge. Not groupthink.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:50 am to
Winning he last 6 games earned the extension.
Posted by SemperFi
St Louis
Member since Nov 2015
1519 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:53 am to
7 day a week pumper lecturing the class about good conversation. Hilarious

quote:

Good conversation translates to people saying things I want to hear huh?


I want to hear? seems others agree with the opinion

Most fans are and always will be........ Results driven

Deal with reality
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:00 am to
I'd imagine he will be extended to 2023 or so at $3 mil per.

Odom is the lowest paid coach in the SEC, he does deserve a bit of a raise.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:02 am to
Yes, what you want to hear.

That's exactly what you said. It was good conversation until someone of a different mind started talking.

Back on track hopefully...

Results driven? 6 in a row. He's earned the extension without question. He's going to get it without question. Thankfully our administration understands what is needed for us to be successful. Sterk is smart, you should listen to him.

The only question is if our fans can be bothered to show up to the games next year. That's the next part of the equation to truly get this ball rolling.
Posted by SemperFi
St Louis
Member since Nov 2015
1519 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:09 am to
quote:

The only question is if our fans can be bothered to show up to the games next year. That's the next part of the equation to truly get this ball rolling


The question is, will BO will have the team ready to play for the first half of the season....... That would be a first for him.

Win and you will have a full house. Lose and you won't. MIZZOU fans are no different then any other program.

It remains as simple as that

6 in a row over shite teams is a great start. I don't hear anything saying otherwise.

Let's see what he does with the bowl game

Let's see how he recruits.

let's see which team shows up the first half of next season.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5365 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:09 am to
Winning 6 games is his JOB. He got 2.35 million to do his job. And that job is for the entire year, not just the last 6 weeks. Can you do your job for half a year and expect a raise?
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:09 am to
Related question:

Despite an extension and raise, if we slip to 5-7 next year, will he be fired?

6-6?
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:12 am to
At 5-7 yea he can be fired. Expectations for next year will depend on Lock and TBJ.

If neither come back 6-6 is ok.
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