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re: Drink refuses to look in the mirror.

Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111515 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:02 pm to
Again, I’ll make the same point I made against Auburn.

It’s not about the little decisions. We can get worked up over the play calling in that last series. In the end, it’s an L.

If he continues to post Ls, the problems will sort themselves out.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:52 pm to
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Do the sports writers also not know what they’re looking at?


frick, probably less than fans.

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Who does know what they’re looking at


Controversial here I know, but the coaches who have spent most of their lives around the game probably have an idea.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:57 pm to
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Drink decided to air it out 3 times in a row.


Lol, you fools have been screaming to throw it down field all season. Now that he does and it doesn’t work you don’t like it. Again, a perfect illustration of my point.

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The timeout.


I’ve seen this mentioned. Someone needs to explain, in detail, what exactly he was supposed to do there. Let the clock run out and save his timeouts for the locker room. The defense couldn’t stop the ground game at the end.

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The 1 yard line false start.


He doesn’t play OL. I didn’t particularly like trying to go fast there, but the guys have to stay set. It’s that simple.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
5897 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:14 am to
I swear it was like watching Martz against New England all over again. Do away with what gave you success. Bold strategy there.
Posted by IlliniBuck
Member since Apr 2015
189 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:20 pm to
I would like to see a different QB from time to time just to see if the offense is sparked. Brady is like Baz in that he is good for 10 to 30 points a game. That may be fine for Coach Drinkwitz. He may think we can win defensive struggles every game. He also told the press Brady is improving so I dunno.

The game Saturday night was winnable and the team played hard. One more stop on Defense and we go to overtime. It wasn't to be though. Everyone knew Georgia would come from behind to win. Yep everyone.

I wonder how the Georgia offense caught fire suddenly in the 4th quarter. Maybe they were told to just start holding until they were caught. They never were caught.

You don't have to watch the whole game either. In plain sight in the highlights are 2 holds on big Georgia plays.

On the first td drive of the 4th quarter No 90 for Mizzou is clearly pulled backwards as he moved to tackle the running back whistling by him for a 27 yard gain. On the 2nd td drive a mizzou defender is right behind Bennett ready to blindside him but can't because he is in a choke hold and visibly being pulled back. Bennett completes a long pass.

Sandwiched in between these Georgia drives is a stalled Missouri drive due to these sharp eyed officials catching a hands to the face penalty.

No matter , everyone knew Georgia would win. Missouri just being Missouri I guess.

Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:37 am to
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The run game was working last night and for whatever reason, Drink decided to air it out 3 times in a row.


This proves you have no clue.

We gained 102 yards total on 21 plays.

91 of those came on 2 plays.

That means we gained 11 yards on the other 19 running plays.

I'm thinking maybe the coaching staff likes to play the percentages and they knew what was working. With few exceptions, it wasn't the run game.

Scroeder did great. He did average over 5 yards per carry. Maybe he was tanked from his long run.

Peat gained 37 yards total, 28 of them on one run. He had 9 carries so he gained 9 yards on 8 carries.

You might want to rethink "the run game was working."





Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17979 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:59 am to
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That means we gained 11 yards on the other 19 running plays.


Take out the 63 yard run and the RBs averaged averaged 4.5 YPC. Still damn good.

Take out the 28 yard run and and RBs go down to 3 YPC. Pretty solid vs UGA.

Terrible play calls killed the run game.

Now lets do the same with passing offense. Since the big gains in the running game were a fluke, so were the big pass plays. So we will remove the 36 and 46 yard pass plays. We end up with 110 yards on 32 passes. That is 3.4 YPA.

I'd take 3 YPC over 3.4 YPA any day given our propensity for dumb mistakes.

EDIT: In summary, there was absolutely no logical argument to support such a drastic difference in play calling favoring the pass. Especially when you consider we had the lead in the 2nd half and needed to run clock to help our D. Anyone defending the pass plays should really look at themselves in the mirror.

EDIT2: I forgot to remove sack yards. So passing would be 97 yards on 34 attempts. That is 2.85 yards per pass play and we have folks on here saying that is better than 3 YPC running the ball....unreal.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 12:09 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:54 pm to
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Terrible play calls killed the run game.


You are a ridiculous broken record.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17979 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:24 am to
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You are a ridiculous broken record.


Do you think some of those reverses against a UGA defense that lost a lot of yards were good for the run game? Do you think they were a good idea to begin with?

The jet sweeps worked fine to constrain/pressure UGA outside. The razzle dazzle was just dumb when we couldn't put any downfield pressure on them consistently.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 12:22 pm to
Would love to hear what you have to say about the performance of the offense during the Vanderbilt game.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5833 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Would love to hear what you have to say about the performance of the offense during the Vanderbilt game.


I wasn’t at the game, so I don’t know how the wind affected the offense. In the 3rd Vandy missed a 26 yard FG and in the 4th Mevis missed a 36 yard FG in south end zone.

We played against the 2nd worst passing defense in the country and that allowed Cook to make some nice passes in the first half.

In the 2nd half almost every RPO where Burden or Lovett was 1-1 Cook would handoff. In the 2nd half they called a Jet Sweep for Burden and Cook changed the play at the line put Burden in motion and handed the ball off to Schrader for a small gain. It looked like Burden would have had a huge opening

Burden is a dynamic player with the ball in his hands, but when it comes to the run game he is a bad blocker. One example is at the beginning of the 4th he missed a block and his guy caused Schrader to cut back inside for a 4 or 5 yard gain. If he had blocked his guy Schrader would have ran outside for at least 10 to 15 yards. The SS was pulled up and the only person that would have stopped Schrader was the FS.

There was so many mistakes by the offense. Usually I blame Cook for almost everything, but the game against Vandy in the 2nd half was combination of the entire team not executing.

Cook proved again he is not a P5 QB. He played terrible against the 2nd worst passing defense. He is a terrible game manager that can’t read a defense

The terrible Vandy offense is the reason Mizzou won. Maybe the wind helped too
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:39 pm to
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The guy needs to let go of the play calling duties.


How EXACTLY will that improve play?

You simpletons think having someone else send in a play will make the players immediately better?

THAT's what has to happen. This forum could call plays and, if they're executed as they should be, we'd be great. If not, which is our current situation, we'd be in the same boat as Drink.

Come up with something else to whine about.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:59 pm to
Your argument suggests that KU has better athletes than Mizzou.

We also now know your alter.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 4:00 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17979 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:03 pm to
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Your argument suggests that KU has better athletes than Mizzou.


Yup.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14925 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:48 pm to
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You are a ridiculous broken record.


Do you think some of those reverses against a UGA defense that lost a lot of yards were good for the run game? Do you think they were a good idea to begin with?

The jet sweeps worked fine to constrain/pressure UGA outside. The razzle dazzle was just dumb when we couldn't put any downfield pressure on them consistently.


Drinkwitz did say Sam Horn was going to play in the Vandy game but now decided it was the right time to do that since it was the OL being bad. Not good for Horn to be put in a bad spot. Now we know why. But why wasn't it fix all that time and the play calling was so bad and doing some dumb reversals and keep doing them each week! I am not sure what really going on or maybe Drink needs to hire an OC to ease up his time to let someone run the offense better and mix it up. Drinkwitz can focus on being the HC.
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 8:46 am to
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Your argument suggests that KU has better athletes than Mizzou.



Mizzou has better talent.

KU has better player development.

Which is quite frankly, sad.

Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5833 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:57 am to
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KU has better player development.


If they had Cook as their starting QB they would go 1-11. Jalon Daniels has thrown 11 TD’s and 1 Int and rushed for 5 TD’s. Daniels is out for the rest of the season.

They started the season 5-0 and are going to lose 7 straight. There is not another team on their schedule they can beat.

Kansas has given up at least 27 points to everyone on their schedule except Tennessee Tech. Mizzou has given up less than 27 except to KState.

OK State @ Home
Tech @ Tech
Texas @ Home
KState @ KState

Kansas does not have better player development than Mizzou. They have a better QB
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17979 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:32 pm to
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Kansas does not have better player development than Mizzou. They have a better QB


ku's current QB (bean) is the same one that started last year on a team that went 2-10. Lets do a little breakdown of last year vs this year.

Stat.......2021.......2022
YPA........6.9........9.8
Rating.....118.11.....174.35 (not a typo)
YPG........114........112 (not a typo)
TD.........6..........9
INT........6.........3

Can you say with a straight face there are no signs of player development in those numbers?

Do we really need data to indicate Cook doesn't appear to be developing?
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5833 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 3:59 pm to
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ku's current QB (bean) is the same one that started last year on a team that went 2-10. Lets do a little breakdown of last year vs this year.


Bean has not developed. He is 1-9 as a starter with a win over a 7-4 FBS South Dakota. He is 0-1 this year.

Daniels started 4 games in 2020, 4 games in 2021 and 6 games this year. He is 6-8 as starter. He is 3-8 in conference play with wins over WV and Iowa state. One of these teams will go 3-9 and the other 4-8 depending on who wins there game. He won against 5-7 Texas last year. He has 2 wins against teams with a winning record. He won against Texas in OT , WV in OT, and Iowa State 14-11.

Daniels is the reason they have won games. If you switch him out with Cook they would be 1-13 in his starts.

Cook and Bazelak are the 2 worst QB starters Mizzou has had in a long time. Cooks high school record as a starter was 19-14 and was offered by Odom after his 5-4 sophomore year. The only reason he was a 3* was because he committed to a P5 school. The only P5 school to offer. He didn’t get a offer from Arkansas State after his visit there.

He is developed about as much as he can be

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17979 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Bean has not developed. He is 1-9 as a starter with a win over a 7-4 FBS South Dakota. He is 0-1 this year.


I provided a significant amount of data showing otherwise that you ignored.
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