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re: Another Week. Another Winnable Game.

Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:34 pm to
Tenner scores at least in the 30’s, Mizzou lucky to get to 20. Still have a chance at Arky though.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5854 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 12:34 am to
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I knew the game was gone when Cook caused his own fumble


I thought it was over when Cook hit Schrader on a check down around the 5 minute mark instead of hitting Bannister at the sticks on 3rd and 10, but the defense gave me hope with a 3 and out.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 8:22 am
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6757 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 7:08 am to
I wonder: Has Horn, or his family, told Drink he is not to play this year? Would explain a lot.
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1820 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:11 am to
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I thought it was over when Cook hit Schrader on a check down around the 5 minute mark instead of hitting Bannister at the sticks on 3rd and 10, but the defense gave me hope with a 3 and out.


I saw that too. Bad decision. The killer BS call by the refs that gave them the first on a 3rd down run by Kentucky that drink should have reviewed was making me scream. That, too, made a difference in the game.

He’s not playing Horn because Horn isnt ready. He came in early summer and it takes a lot of time for a QB to learn a college playbook. And he doesnt want to repeat the mistake of starting Cook and sending Baz to the portal. Don’t get me wrong, Baz sucked last year, but he started Cook in a game that didnt matter and had to spend the off season searching for QB depth. I would rather have Baz as the backup after a summertime battle than Abraham.

He got lucky when he talked Tyler Macon to stick out this season as the backup injury starter(def not Abraham). Drink has preserved his redshirt so he can hit the portal after this season. I am curious as to Macon coming in yesterday on the fourth down play that he lined up under center and then they called timeout. Does that count as a game for him?

Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5369 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:35 am to
He started Cook in the Bowl game because Bazelak met with him and told him his plan to transfer. Also exposing Horn to the game helps the game "slow" down for him. He has to be the starter next year or he hits the portal and will be scooped up in no time. Plus Horn is capable of the short passes that the offense uses. It's an assumption that Drink has an elaborate playback, but there has been no actual proof of that both at Mizzou or App State.
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
2952 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:03 am to
Agreed. There’s no evidence Drink’s playbook is hard to master with its junk HS trick plays. Horn probably led a more complex offense in Georgia.

Cook can’t even make simple game manager decisions with the ball.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28114 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:29 am to
all that needs to be said, is that at halftime, Cook had 19 yards of passing.

this is not the kentucky defenses of the past years, they are injured and had guys move on.


19 yards of fricking passing
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5854 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 12:26 pm to
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Drink has preserved his redshirt so he can hit the portal after this season. I am curious as to Macon coming in yesterday on the fourth down play that he lined up under center and then they called timeout. Does that count as a game for him?


I think they have to play in 5 games before they lose their redshirt. I think Cale Garrett didn’t get to redshirt because he played in 5 games before he tore his pec.

Horn could play the rest of the season and not burn his redshirt.

I think that is how the redshirt rule works

Cook could be 3rd string next year behind Horn and Gabarri.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111631 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:37 pm to
Saving Horn for his redshirt year is stupid to start with. If he’s good, will he be here all four years starting next year?
Posted by CelticTiger
Saint Louis
Member since Feb 2019
1141 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:38 pm to
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If he’s good


That’s starting to be a concern of mine. What if he’s not playing because he’s just not good.

Let’s face it Cook is flat out terrible. The things he lacks are things you simply can’t develop. He can’t “see the field” and when he does by happenstance notice a guy is open he gets so excited he throws a completely uncatchable pass. I doubt Macon is much better. Ego or no, at some point I would hope Drink wants to win a ballgame or two. I’m starting to fear that if Horn was capable he’d be playing, but maybe he’s not.

If that’s the case are we just going to readjust our expectations and hollow optimistic hopes…”just wait until Gabarri Johnson is ready” in 2024 or 2025.

I am so fricking tired of waiting!
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3076 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:14 am to
Told y'all earlier about Drinkputz.

He. Does. Know. What. He's. Doing.

How's the HC with the "L" on his forehead covered with a visor doing??? Mr. Offense! Did any of you losers see that QB sneak Saturday??? Every player on that field was a HS star. Yet, Mizzou can't execute a F**KING sneak. You can place that failure on the players or coaching...I chose both and the buck stops at the top with Mr. Offense. He's my focus.

This extension ONLY makes sense if for recruiting purposes. If there's a nickel more $ and/or increased buyout $...totally stupid. I expect stupidity from the BOC down and throughout the AD regarding sports. Show me some brilliance and SEC level leadership please...EVEN F**KING ONCE. There's some more LONG TERM losing history for ya. Jimmy Sexton owns these L-T losers at every turn. He has my admiration and I'll give Drinkwitz credit for hiring him. And if you think that the Sexton/Drinkwitz team give a rip about the Mizzou program...you are a certified fool.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 9:19 am
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15048 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:38 pm to
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That’s starting to be a concern of mine. What if he’s not playing because he’s just not good.

Let’s face it Cook is flat out terrible. The things he lacks are things you simply can’t develop. He can’t “see the field” and when he does by happenstance notice a guy is open he gets so excited he throws a completely uncatchable pass. I doubt Macon is much better. Ego or no, at some point I would hope Drink wants to win a ballgame or two. I’m starting to fear that if Horn was capable he’d be playing, but maybe he’s not.

If that’s the case are we just going to readjust our expectations and hollow optimistic hopes…”just wait until Gabarri Johnson is ready” in 2024 or 2025.

I am so fricking tired of waiting!

There's always next year! Drinkwitz knew this year wasn't going to make a huge impact on W-L record. Try again next year. I hope there will be a quarterback competition for the quarterback starting position. This year there wasn't anyone after cook. Games were too close to give anyone any playing time. Next year I expect OL to be much better and have good backups and depth. Then quarterback with Horn and that quarterback who is a 4* current commitment. With a year with a good to average defense is a plus and carry that over for next year should be much better with a supposed new OC to help with some of the terrible offense schemes and play calling. I would be looking forward to watching the team next year.
If you know it isn't going to get any better next year, please explain why?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15048 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:50 pm to
Plus, another reason not to let Horn play with this offense schemes and OL isn't as good when one went down during the Kentucky game. Also, Horn will not have to learn and fall backwards with this offense schemes and then when the new OC takes over it shall be much better and easier to start first game with that offense system/scheme. Remember a new OC means different system/scheme is good and will only make other teams to start countering this new offense when it is done might not be 100 percent different, but it should be much better and an improved offense over the current one.
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1124 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:25 am to
Biggest problem with Horn not playing is we have no idea how he does in games.
So Drink is going to go into next season with a RS FR that he intends to start? I'm guessing he'll panic and recruit a merc starter to come in, like he tried with this year. Then you run the risk that if Horn feels like he is just going to be waiting his turn for ever, he should transfer.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5369 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 12:50 pm to
I'm willing to give Drink the benefit of the doubt with Horn because...

1. Horn was rated #9 chose Mizzou.

2. Gunnar Stockton rated #7 chose UGA. ( which is why UGA didn't push for Horn btw)

3. Stockton came in when the starter got shaken up. Looked like arse! Stockton even enrolled early and participated in Spring camp.

UGA is solid up front, has the best RB and TE rooms in the country and better than average receivers. But Stockton wasn't ready. So with Mizzous offensive deficits, maybe putting Horn in isn't a good idea.
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6903 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:11 pm to
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I mind Horn sitting because I believe the reason he’s sitting is because of Drink’s ego.


Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1124 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 6:20 pm to
All good points. But a no-pressure series or two would be good to see what his reaction is to live game time, and give Horn a good marker on what he needs to do.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:27 am to
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All good points. But a no-pressure series or two would be good to see what his reaction is to live game time, and give Horn a good marker on what he needs to do.



Hell Pinkel would give his next QB's true game time.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5369 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:47 am to
But Pinkel didn't have the transfer portal hanging over his head. Horn is the starter next year or he is gone. So there is no advantage to sacrificing him this year. At worst he gets blown up and loses confidence. Then you're hoping Gibarri, a true freshman can be the starter.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111631 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:21 pm to
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So there is no advantage to sacrificing him this year.


Sure there is. Getting him game experience means that Drinkwitz isn’t trusting his future to a redshirt freshman with no college experience.
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